From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #279 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thurs, 27 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 279 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: Blocking the_dojang: Right side theory and Shugyo the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #278 the_dojang: Re: Fw: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #272 (fwd) the_dojang: JC Shin the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Atchinson, Kerry M" Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:22:02 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Blocking > From: "Aaron Harmon" > Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:40:33 -0700 > Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #277 > > QUESTION:I remember way back when I did TKD for a while, that I was told > that the traditional hard blocks were really more along the line of > attacks > to the opponents attacking limb and were not purely defensive actions, > that > being the reason for the power involved in a blocking action and also the > reason that people don't block that way in sparring. Do y'all have that > blocking philosophy also? > Aaron "Soon to be Dan Bo"Harmon > > Ouch! His blocks hurt! > > Yep. We are occasionally reminded that our blocks should be hard enough to break boards, and can serve to "take out" the attacker's limb. Good luck on Dan-Bo! Kerry ------------------------------ From: burdickd Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:52:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Right side theory and Shugyo According to our system of tkd, we move to the left because most opponents are right handed. Some of the Shorin-ryu guys I've worked with have explained that they move to the right because they have trapped or caught the opponent's right arm and are now applying a jointlock or throwing them. I tend to teach guards and jams rather than blocks, and interpret blocks in the forms as possible strikes, jointlocks, or throws. The right side theory that I have heard as far as opponent vulnerability is that you should hit someone on their right side of the ribs to be more effective. Works well at first, but it seems also to be pretty easy to learn to cover that side by tensing your muscles and thus take the hit. As for shugyo, yes, I had a student who liked to work out very hard and wanted to hang himself like he had heard the Shaolin monks did. I just warned him to take it easy and review medical literature on these techniques (like that old article on Oyama's knuckles) before doing this sort of thing. I think age and experience will mellow him eventually -- he doesn't tend to pay attention to anyone who won't hurt him, and since I refuse to hurt him, he figures I'm not tough enough to really know how to train. He stayed on ok behavior in class only because I threatened to kick him out unless he did. He's a good training partner for me since he pushes me, but I do watch out for my other students when they train with him to make sure he doesn't get too rough with them. How have you handled these types? Yours in the arts Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:44:22 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #278 In a message dated 5/26/99 5:02:32 PM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << QUESTION:I remember way back when I did TKD for a while, that I was told that the traditional hard blocks were really more along the line of attacks to the opponents attacking limb and were not purely defensive actions, that being the reason for the power involved in a blocking action and also the reason that people don't block that way in sparring. Do y'all have that blocking philosophy also ? >> I was always told that every block is a strike and every strike is a block ... meaning that every block should be performed as if you were basically going to 'destroy' the attacking object (arm or leg). Was also informed that even your basic down block can be turned into a low section attack ... as for people blocking like that in sparring ... well... what happens when you miss,, and we all do miss ... blocking that hard tends to leave a person open when we miss ... also, to be honest... would you keep coming ot class if you get hit that hard when you "PARTNER" blocks that hard ? Food for thought... that is all. WriorDragn (Rick) ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Fw: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #272 (fwd) Forwarding. Sent to the wrong address. Ray - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Forwarded message: >From MSFG@aol.com Wed May 26 17:30:13 1999 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 20:18:55 EDT Subject: Re: Fw: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #272 To: rayreq@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com In a message dated 99-05-24 21:16:29 EDT, you write: << FYI: One of the people Hwang Kee sent to the US in the mid 60's was Jae C. Shin. Some of Master Shin's black belts from Korea assisted in his move t the US and his establishment of a studio there. He originally opened a studio in Burlington, NJ, in 1968, and assisted the growth of the the Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan in the States. It grew from there with the processing of many new Dan members who, in turn, opened their own studios in the area. Jae C. Shin spread also to the Philadelphia and Trenton, NJ areas. The Burlington studio was sold in the early 80's to In Ku Yu. The Trenton and Philadelphia studios are still in existence, but are members of the World Tang Soo Do Association. Thus the high concentration of Tang Soo Do in PA and NJ. Maggie In a message dated 99-05-22 03:05:22 EDT, you write: << > From: samiller@Bix.Com > Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:49:37 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #270 > > We are taught that early on GM Hwang Kee sent 5 emissaries to the U.S. to > promote Tang Soo Do: Shinn, Kim, Yi, Yu, and Chang. The effort was > apparently begun somewhere around Pennsauken, NJ, not very far from > Philadelphia. If that history is even approximately true, it would > certainly account for the relatively high concentration of TSD schools in > Pennsylvania and NJ. Of course, what we're taught and/or my interpretation > of it could be erroneous. Comments or corrections, Master Hancock? > >I do find it interesting that they are both based in Pennsylvania though: > >GM Shin in Philly, and GM Kim near Pittsburgh. Was PA a hot spot for > >martial arts in the late sixties/early seventies?:) > === > Tang Soo! > Scott > >> ------------------------------ From: Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: JC Shin > One of the people Hwang Kee sent to the US in the mid 60's was Jae C. Shin. Didn't Carlos (aka Chuck) Norris study under JC Shin in Korea when he was in the Air Force? 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