From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #285 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 31 May 1999 Vol 06 : Num 285 In this issue: the_dojang: Taekwondo Sparring Clinic the_dojang: 1999 USTU Presidents Cup the_dojang: Sine wave motion (was: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #284) the_dojang: Re: Where ya headed Jamaica? the_dojang: Beyond Electronic Scoring... the_dojang: Re: Hi Aimee the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 11:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Taekwondo Sparring Clinic 2 time World Champion, Ms. Seung Min Lee, will be teaching a Taekwondo sparring clinic - Saturday July 31, 1999. - 1PM to 5PM - Golden State Taekwondo 1471 Beach Park Blvd Foster City, California 94404 (Foster City is just south of San Francisco) - $75 For more information contact Yvonne Kerno at - 650-571-6422 - goldenstatetkd@yahoo.com "Master Lee will be sharing the training techniques and fighting strategies that helped her win 2 World Championships ('93 & '95) as well numerous other International and National titles. She draws on her experience as a 7 time Korean National Team Member and the winner of an astounding 80 consecutive matches! Master Lee is still active in Taekwondo compeitition." "Space limited to 20 people! Intermediate to Advanced students only. Prepay with Money Order or Cashier's Check made out to Golden State TKD to reserve your place." Entry deadline = Sunday, June 20, 1999 Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 11:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: 1999 USTU Presidents Cup 1999 USTU Presidents Cup October 15/16, 1999 Five person teams must be Black Belts from the same state. Open to the first 20 male teams and the first 20 female teams that register. The winners will be the 1999 Presidents Cup National Champs! Competition also includes: - Ages 6 and up - Green belt and above - Junior, Adult, and Golden Senior - Individual divisions To be held at the Kissimmee Civic Center, in the Orlando, FLA area. For more info see www.ustu.org or call 719-578-4632. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Anders Torvill Bjorvand Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:00:37 +0200 Subject: the_dojang: Sine wave motion (was: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #284) > I'd humbly offer the following four pieces of advice, at the risk of >oversimplifying > things > > 1) Follow your instructor's directions > 2) Stretch. > 3) Stretch. > 4) Stretch. >> > >I would change only 3 and 4 - > >3) RELAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >4) BREATHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >5) Breathe - and then you will relax. > >I will also plug a new link on an old (short) article I attached to my page - >the Wave theory - http://honetown.aol.com/ladytkd/page2/index.htm - I guess that you meant: http://hometown.aol.com/ladytkd/page2/index.htm >It goes into why your techniques and forms will be better if you can relax as >you initiate them and tense only at the last moment. They will be harder and >faster - and you won't get as tired. I looked at the article, which in fact didn't say much, but nonetheless, I observed that the master stating this was associated with WTF TKD which amazed me somewhat. I thought their emphasis on basic technique was different - more static, karate style movements. (yet - I am talking basics; not sparring). I have an interesting question related to this. My background in TKD is both from the TKD-school/style of grandmaster Kwon Jae-Hwa in Germany and from the Chang Hun style of the ITF TKD (Choi Hong Hi). I have also oberved several WTF practicioners. One thing that differs between the ITF TKD style and everything else I have seen, is the sine wave motion. Every technique is associated with a up-down movement. I have worked with both styles (flat and sine wave), and personally, I feel that the sine wave style is more powerful. This is consistent with the points made in the post I replied to. I have some questions/concerns related to this, that I hope that some of you might be able to answer: 1) As far as I know, ITF TKD hasn't always had this sine wave movement. In the beginning, I believe that the movements were very similar to shotokan (which Choi Hong Hi had been trained in). My question is twofold: when did Choi Hong Hi introduce this movement, and second: when was it standardized on and all shotokan-style (flat) movements abandoned alltogether from the ITF style? 2) In his 15 volume encyclopedia of TKD, Choi Hong Hi gives no mention of where he has picked up this idea. Is it novel? Does anybody know of any other similar arts with this clear sine wave up-down movement ? 3) I am starting to investigate into other korean arts, and find it very stimulating that so many of you study other arts than TKD. I have a question relating to these other arts and the sine wave vs. flat karate style: what is the difference in the performance of similar/common basic techniques between karate and tang soo do, WTF style TKD, hapkido etc. As far as I know, they all practice flat (in my opinion; static) movements. 4) What organizations share the basic techniques of the ITF with the sine wave movements? I only know of the ITF and the GTF. 5) If anybody else has practiced both flat karate style movements and the sine wave movements of the ITF, I would be pleased to know your opinions on the weaknesses and strengths of both approaches. If you are unfamiliar with sine wave techniques, you can watch the most common ITF patterns performed in this way at http://olympia.fortunecity.com/hill/432/. (RealVideo). I am looking forward to hearing your opinons! Sincerely, Anders Torvill Bjorvand Norway ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:12:44 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Where ya headed Jamaica? >>>Are you giving up TKD? Moving to a email-less land? What's up? John >>>Bennett>>>>>>> ======================================== Well for the very first time in my life I'm now free to pursue anything and everything and I am. No more responsibilities, commitments, constraints, obligations, political pressures or elected offices. Long time coming. Wow, don't know if I can handle that!...(Smile, haha, yeah right!!) Giving up TKD?? Is there such a thing..??? Maybe I'll just be a tournament groupie, lurker... Seriously, I've got a few things in the works but always keep the doors open for new ideas. In the process of closing up the old life and establishing a new one. It's my time - a new time - about time! (M.A. and non-M.A). Email-less land.. Nah!!! Have computer will travel. See that way if I ever get bored I can just set up a couple email accounts and talk to myself!! Right now, I'm just chilling, learning how to relax, and travelling and scoping things out, visiting people, etc. Thanks for asking, John. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:08:29 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Beyond Electronic Scoring... ...And just as some of you are trying to adjust to electronic scoring; I was reading an article about some new judging equipment being used at the Olympics. I lost the article, but it pretty much said when judges are trying to assess a sport say like gymnastics, vaulting, or figure skating and a certain required move is executed than there is always the subjective opinion of how well a technique is executed. Well now some of the judges are testing these infrared type computer programs which record and show in step-by-step progression how the person executed the technique. Sort of graphic like/slow motion. And then they are using that to finalize their scores. jamaica _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: the_dojang-owner Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:41:13 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Hi Aimee << hi.. I'm new to this list and to Tae Kwon Do. I'm a yellow belt and have been practicing since January of this year with my six year old daughter. I find Tae Kwon Do very rewarding and enjoy having something special that we can do together, but I am having trouble catching on to new kicks and forms. I would love some suggestions on things I could practice on at home and some good books that would show forms and different techniques to help me improve. I would also love to hear some stories of when you all started martial arts so I wouldn't feel all alone in my fumbling beginnings!! :) Aimee Wilson >> Hi Aimee One book that you might find useful is called "Tae Kwon Do" the ultimate reference guide to the world's most popular martial arts, by Yeon Hee Park, Yeon Hwan Park and Jon Gerrard. It has a little bit of everything, history, basic techniques, forms (tae geuk). It costs around $10 or $15 and almost any big chain bookstores should have them in their sport section. Once you find the section you'll be sure to find other books on the topic. Good luck! karina 3rd gup-WTF ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 07:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #285 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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