From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #290 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 2 June 1999 Vol 06 : Num 290 In this issue: the_dojang: This Month's AAU Articles the_dojang: RE: Aggressiveness the_dojang: C.S.Kim the_dojang: Martial Art vs. Modern Art? the_dojang: Biomechanics & Force Re: the_dojang: Biomechanics & Force the_dojang: Re: Biomechanics and Force the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DMazor1026@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:21:28 EDT Subject: the_dojang: This Month's AAU Articles This month's articles on the AAU Taekwondo web site at www.aautaekwondo.org * Officials' Corner: Not Only Are You Bald, But You=92re Going Blind! *Training Tip: The Optimal Method of Breathing for Martial Artists *Coaches=92 Corner: Tips For Coaching at the AAU Nationals - - -Dave ------------------------------ From: "Atchinson, Kerry M" Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:44:31 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Aggressiveness > From: "Jamaica Power" > Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:48:00 PDT > Subject: the_dojang: Aggressiveness > > Do you think martial artists as a whole or maybe just competitors have an > aggressive personality which attributes to our competitive nature. > No, not always. I see a lot of classmates and others that are in TKD for the art, fitness, self-discipline, or whatever that are not "aggressive". And I see no reason why they should not be considered martial artists. > Do you think that it is possible to be a martial artist and not be > aggressive. Even if someone appears to be non-aggressive do you think > they > maybe could have a passive/aggressive personality. > Sure it's possible. In fact I think it should be preferred. If we take an aggressive attitude, how can we also take the approach that the first solution to a physical conflict is to walk/run away? Of course being non-aggressive is not the same as being meek. "Speak softly and carry a big stick..." > I was just wondering if all of us have some inherent aggressiveness within > > us that attracts us to the arts and that we have a need to release this > aggressiveness in a civilized manner. > Some of us. We all know a few people that relish making excessive contact or that get in a huff when their partner doesn't want to train in the "all out" manner that they know is the "right way". But from what I see more of us use our training as a stress release than as a channel for aggression. IMHO, of course. Kerry I'm not a wolf, but don't mistake me for a sheep. WTF TKD Dan-Bo ------------------------------ From: Nyneerland@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:30:26 EDT Subject: the_dojang: C.S.Kim This may be a redundant announcement for some, but there is a great article in this month's Black Belt magazine about Tang Soo Do and sparring by G.M. C.S. Kim from Pittsburgh, PA. He speaks a lot about lateral movement and the importance of one-steps. Check it out! Tang Soo! Anita Conlon (Cho Dan Bo, Yi's Karate) ------------------------------ From: Stan Lim Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:30:26 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Martial Art vs. Modern Art? Cute gif animation. Don't try this at home. http://www.employees.org/~slim/MAHumor/stick.gif Stan slim@employees.org ------------------------------ From: Eric Mueller Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 17:07:56 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Biomechanics & Force > From: "Jamaica Power" > Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:40:56 PDT > Subject: the_dojang: Biomechanics and force > > Well as I'm winding down on some posts here I had some additional thoughts. > As most of you know I've been doing plyometrics for a long time. I'm also > interested in items such as biomechanics, sports medicine and injuries. > > As we talk about the full contact aggressiveness and injuries occurring at > elite competitions and the potential for severe injury or worse, then I was > wondering if anybody has ever done a study on the force and speed of some of > the kicks and punches generated by our current elite competitors (any > organization or m.a distributors). > > I'd be surprised if a study hasn't yet been done because (IMHO) I think it > should be done. What I am looking for is somebody that has done something > like this as is done in tennis or baseball where when the ball is hit on a > serve or otherwise; you can determine the force and the speed of the > particular hit. > > It would seem to me that we should also be measuring the force of impact of > some of the competitors using some type of force plate or computer program > to generate the data during personal training sessions. I could see the > advantages to this especially in a study not only for effective competition > but safety and safety equipment. > > All thoughts welcome. > > Jamaica > I recall watching a program - I believe on the discovery Channel - a year or so ago about biomechanics, ergonomics and engineering. Part of this program focused on Taekwondo. A Korean - American Grad Student -type was trying to develop an automated electronic scoring system which would score a point only if adequate force was delivered to an authorized scoring area (essentially making the corner Judges Obsolete). Part of the process discussed the forces generated with various Kicks - utilizing 'Force plate and computers to measure the Joules transferred. I am not sure if it was a Learning Channel, Discovery Channel Show or what, but I have a friend who produces documentaries for Public TV, and was recently hired as a producer by the Discovery Channel - so next time I see him I'll ask if he could hunt down the episode. I have also seen advertised, and brought to some tournaments for demonstration a kicking apparatus that incorporates a computerized ergometer (??is that the correct term?). I think the name of this contraption is "Ssarubi" and as I recall it costs about $6,000.......... Hope this helps Eric Mueller ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: the_dojang: Biomechanics & Force > I have also seen advertised, and brought to some tournaments for > demonstration a > kicking apparatus that incorporates a computerized ergometer (??is > that > the correct > term?). I think the name of this contraption is "Ssarubi" and as I > recall > it costs > about $6,000.......... We have a couple of these. Fun stuff... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Jamaica Power Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:23:22 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Biomechanics and Force >>>Several of the manufacturers of impact targets can also deliver separate >>>digital displays to go with their best models.>>>>>>>> Sincerely, Anders Torvill Bjorvand Norway ====================================== Thanks for the response and all the info. I would love to be at a tournament and see a digital display of the force of impact and speed of some of these backspinning kicks and round house kicks as they are executed. But then that's me. Like in tennis when they serve down the line and it immediately shows up 110 mph.. Plus I'm curious about force of impact because that would certainly provide us with information as to what type of injuries could be expected upon entering competition today. Anyway, thanks again J _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #290 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. 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