From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #302 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 8 June 1999 Vol 06 : Num 302 In this issue: the_dojang: Aloha Online News! (fwd) the_dojang: RE: ITF Master/Grandmaster Re: the_dojang: RE: ITF Master/Grandmaster the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #301 the_dojang: Posterior Compartment Syndrome the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Sorry, we do not post banners on the website - text only. ------------------------------ From: Anders Torvill Bjorvand Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:20:34 +0200 Subject: the_dojang: RE: ITF Master/Grandmaster At 08:06 08/06/1999 -0700, you wrote: >From: Renee Chizek >Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:42:19 -0400 >Subject: the_dojang: RE: ITF Master/Grandmaster > >I've heard various version of the Master/Grandmaster status within ITF. > >My Grandmaster (GM BC Yu) has been a Grandmaster (7th Dan) for more than = >10 years. He studied directly with General Choi. My main instructor will = >be testing for Master (4th Dan) this fall. > >General Choi was the only 9th Dan until recently when Jhoon Ree and one = >other (forgot his name) became 9th. But he was not the only GrandMaster. Jhoon Rhee is not with the ITF. I have only heard directly of two grandmasters in the ITF (apart from Choi). (9th dan is required for the title of grandmaster in the ITF). These two are: Rhee Ki Ha and Charles Sereff. Someone else recently told me that a guy called Hwang also was an ITF GM. Sincerely, Anders Torvill Bjorvand Norway ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: the_dojang: RE: ITF Master/Grandmaster > These two are: Rhee Ki Ha and Charles Sereff. > Someone else recently told me that a guy called Hwang also was an ITF GM. GM Hwang is the head of the KATU, an ITF group. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Tom Marker Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:37:00 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #301 >This may have created a bit of confusion, please let me know if it has. >Master Kim maintains Moo Duk Kwon in the school name but he does not (at >this time) train us TSD forms. As I understand it, he uses the teaching >methodology/techniques of MDK and would assume (bad Jim) that it also is a >reflection of his heritage. >My fear as I was developing the site was that someone might expect to be >taught TSD so I added a blurb on what the curriculum includes (from above: >World Tae Kwon Do Federation (WTF) forms, 10 "Basic" forms, In Young Ryu, >sparring, stretching and conditioning.) This seems very confusing to me. It also seems to imply that Master Kim is trained to instruct MDK (which he may or may not be.. can't tell from the site) I think by saying "the Center follows the practices of Moo Duk Kwan, one of the five original TKD schools" you are claiming to be something you are not. Why not just say "we train in a traditional manner." this seems much better than using MDK in a generic sense, which could offend people who do train MDK. It also sounds like you're saying MDK evolved from TKD, which is inaccurate. It appears that Master Kim does teach traditional MDK/TSD forms as he requires one to learn Naihanchis, Bassai, Sip Soo, Jindo, Rohai, O Sip Sa Bo, Kong Sang Koon, Jion, etc. These forms are required for Dan level ranks. I don't think WTF uses these forms at all, do they? What I'm wondering is that if he believes so much in the heritage and methodology of the MDK, then why not teach MDK instead of TKD? Tae Kwon Do, especially competition-oriented Tae Kwon Do, is very different than "old-school" Moo Duk Kwan. I'm not trying to be insulting, I'm just trying to figure out the intentions... If you do both, great. If not, it seems like bad practice to claim such lineage. - --- tom marker marker.11@osu.edu ------------------------------ From: "KEVIN A. CRANE" Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:37:49 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Posterior Compartment Syndrome Hello Again. I recently wrote about having a broken blood vessel(s) in my calf and wanted to provide an update. The doctor told me this condition is called Posterior Compartment Syndrome and that it often times takes a while to heal. People who don't seek treatment for this problem can end up needing surgery to correct it as well as several units of blood during the operation. The scary part about this problem is that what feels like a bad muscle pull could really be something worse. This doesn't have to occur in the calf like I have, but can occur in other parts of the leg from what I understand. Has anybody out there ever experienced this problem? I would be very interested to hear about your situation...how long were you out of martial arts as a result, what did you do to get healthy other than just rest it, is there anything that can be done to prevent this type of injury, etc. Thank you very much! Kevin Crane 2nd Gup Delaware County (Philly suburb) ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #302 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com, in pub/the_dojang/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, California Taekwondo Standard disclaimers apply.