From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #311 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 14 June 1999 Vol 06 : Num 311 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #310 the_dojang: Tang Soo Do book the_dojang: RE: Sul Sa Do the_dojang: re: Injuries and Testing the_dojang: M.A. as leisure activity, should instructor touch you the_dojang: Welcome, Donna the_dojang: 1999 Dallas Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Championships the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #309 the_dojang: Absent from class the_dojang: Ill ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: d g Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:40:48 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #310 the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com wrote: > > From: "Laura Kamienski" > Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:08:26 -0400 > Subject: the_dojang: re: endurance advice > > From: "Aaron Harmon" > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:36:19 -0700 > Subject: the_dojang: Endurance advice > > Hi Aaron, > > Bike riding is _excellent_ cross training and will not hinder your > flexibility one bit if you stretch properly before and after. TKD and biking > are my two biggest loves in life and each has helped the other. > > I am an aerobics instructor / personal trainer by trade and would recommend > any type of low impact aerobic activity including: EFX machines, stationary > bicycles, rowing machines etc. If you like group fitness classes, low impact > aerobics (or high impact modified to low impact) or step classes are also an > option. I teach CardioKarate at a gym and at my dojang and would highly > recommend some sort of fitness kickboxing class as well. > > Hope this helps. Best wishes on your upcoming test! > First off. Hello Laura. It is good to be on a list together again. :) Now I have been thinking about bike riding again. Any suggestions on building stamina? I have this steep hill as a driveway. What would you suggest to do to build stamina for going up that? Just to let you know. I tested again two weekends ago and passed. I am a brown stripe now. Donna ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 07:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Tang Soo Do book LEE Kang Uk's book seems to be shipping now, Tang Soo Do: The Ultimate Guide to the Korean Martial Art, Unique Publications, 1999. My order from Amazon.com finally arrived yesterday. Contents include an interesting Moo Duk Kwan family tree, lots of forms info, basic techniques info, sparring & self-defense techniques, and brief Korean-English and English-Korean glossaries, and lots of pictures. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Don.Hahn@phs.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:30:04 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Sul Sa Do >>About a dozen years ago, there were two rather snotty fellas' in Denver - "The Lee Brothers" - who were billing thmeselves as "Korean Ninjas," and called therir art "Sul Sa Do." They even made the cover of a national martial arts rag, or two. Funny thing is that, in Korean, Sul Sa means diarrhea. I guess it was just a way of demonstrating how dumb we Americans can be about things Asian. SESilz << I don't know what Korean words were. Sul sa, Sool Sal, sur sa, etc. I wouldn't conclude that it means diarrhea. Sa can means many things, including the number four and death. Sul can mean technique or alcohol, among other things. No comment on the Lee brothers but a comment on English romanization/translations of Korean words. ------------------------------ From: "Joel Martin McTague" Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 17:06:54 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: re: Injuries and Testing In our school, we have testing every month. For the 1st Gups, we do a testing every month for 3-6 months until you're ready to test for your black belt. Right after my first gup testing, I broke one bone in my wrist which caused other complications. I ended up in both a brace for several months and a cast for several weeks. I ended up taking a Hapkido test and my black belt TKD test while casted. I didn't think it was that bad at all. My instructor was accomidating enough to design the test around my temporary disability (e.g., being right handed, he gave me easier left handed breaks). Joel Martin McTague, J.D., M.B.A. D.B.A. (Finance) Candidate, Nova Southeastern University 1st Dan, WTF; 4th Gup, WTHF http://www.geocities.com/collegepark/library/1769 (My Home Page) http://members.theglobe.com/mctague (CropCircles.Com) ------------------------------ From: Kim Jones Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:50:39 KST Subject: the_dojang: M.A. as leisure activity, should instructor touch you From: Jamaica Power Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:30:24 PDT Subject: the_dojang: RE: Should your M.A. Instructor Touch You Hi... Just one additional thought. A few people have equated martial arts with sports like gymnastics where touching also occurs. My feeling on this would be, how many people in the public or say a jury pool could tell you exactly what gymnastics is about and give examples. How many individuals in the community can define martial arts and what goes on in a dojang? Heck, even amongst ourselves that definition varies. I don't think we've yet cleared the barriers here. A thought and as always thanks to everyone for the great responses and opinions on this topic. I appreciate your time and effort. *snip* Well... Jamaica, you have provoked my brain cells a tad bit too early this morning... and I have a physics exam in a couple hours. No problem however... :) ...going back onto what you said that some people (actually, a lot) are turning to the martial arts as a "cute" or "trendy" activity, these are the people who causing the problems as far as the instructor goes, using touch at his discretion, which should only be to correct the actual form or to get your attention if shouting your name a million times doesn't work. The honest instructor will always have a good reason for laying a hand on a student; you can pretty much guess that the dishonest instructor might not have the best of intentions. Anyways, it's not fair to the students who are there to learn the martial arts if you have a couple people who are there for their own amusement. It's wrong to treat the martial arts, some of which have served an entire people as the last line of defense when warning wasn't enough in the days of yore, as some sort of activity that you can quickly master. There are some people have been training for years and have the rank of Master or Grandmaster (the title, actually) and still call themselves an instructor. That sort of dedication to the arts is rare and hard to find. People like that will always dispense knowledge to those who are willing to go through hell and high water to learn, and frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if those are the people who will front out on people who are only there for the temporary thrill of the "trend." But as I recall, the people of the Three Kingdoms and united Koryo and Yi Dynasties following didn't think of the martial arts as some sort of "trendy" or "cute" activity. Those people had to fight for their life, for crying out loud, and here you have the Pepsi generation acting as if the martial arts were created for their own diminished and fleeting purposes. You have people today who totally dedicated to the martial arts, and there are plenty on the Digest. They have put lots of time and energy into learning the martial arts, and yet you still find an occasional person who's ditzy enough to think that taking up a martial art is like keeping one of those silly workout tapes at home... you can put the tape on the shelf, but when it comes down to hardcore training, when your life is in danger, you better believe that if you aren't conditioned to protect yourself with all your might, you might fall to injury or even death on the behalf of your attacker. Going back to the other original topic of my reply, touch should be used with the utmost discretion. Falling back on experience, I have only been touched when my technique needs to be corrected. (And believe me, I have some of the most off-the-wall techniques that still need to be corrected.) There is no reason to touch a student out of the blue, especially in this day and age when rumors tend to fly faster than our faltering airline services (oops...). Maybe there should be a course made to deal with discretion... I don't know. But that's all I can possibly think of for now. More later if it occurs to me. Kim Jones "All warfare is based on deception." --Sun Tzu, "The Art of War" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: tokay@netwurx.net Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:14:25 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Welcome, Donna Hey, Donna, welcome to the list. Nice to see you here. Sandy - -- tokay@netwurx.net http://www.netwurx.net/~tokay ICQ 39586040 ------------------------------ From: "John Bennett" Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:32:19 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: 1999 Dallas Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Championships You are invited to attend the 1999 Dallas Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Championships! This exciting event will be hosted entirely by 5th Degree Black Belt Carlos Machado according to the high standards of the American Federation of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Date: SATURDAY, JUNE 19, 1999. Location: 5707 ROYAL LANE, DALLAS TEXAS, USA * Many divisions and levels. * Awards for all 1st, 2nd, & 3rd places Test your skills, meet old and new friends, and most importantly... have a good time! For more information, please visit the tournament web pages using the following link... http://www.machadojj.com/carlos/bjjc99/ or call (972) 934-1316. Hope to see you there! John Bennett ------------------------------ From: Ray Wagner Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:45:50 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #309 Aaron Harmon wrote: > That means that I have about 6 months until my 1st Dan test, and I need to > work on aerobic endurance. Now I am a big guy with knee issues and can't run > much, because I get shin splints in an instant, (and it is not part of the > test, whew!) As the other Ray mentioned, stretching the calf will do wonders for this. Also, strengthening the shin muscles will help a lot. Anyway... > Any low-impact aerobic stuff that I can do on my non-class days that y'all > can suggest? This may sound goofy, but have you tried Taebo? The advanced tape is a pretty good aerobic workout and works on the same muscles you use for your MA. > I have done walking (which is good), but I heard that bike riding would not > be good for my flexibility (which is not great). Biking is only bad for your flexibility if you don't stretch. Do a good stretching routine before and after and you should be fine. Ray (#2) Wagner ------------------------------ From: "Wilson, Aimee" Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:35:59 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Absent from class I have a question. I've noticed a lot of my fellow students at my dojang have very sporadic attendance and I'm not sure if that's due to the parents hectic schedule or just a lack of motivation on the students part. My GM always makes comments to the students that have been out of class for awhile and puts the absent student on the "spot" asking questions like, where were you? Are you not serious about TKD? Then proceeds to tell the class all about laziness and how it is the enemy of TKD. Well, I went on vacation for a week and took another week off ( I sprained my foot while I was on vacation.) Now I'm nervous about returning. I also missed some time during finals ( I'm a college student ) Is there anything I could say or do so my GM wouldn't make me the class spectacle. I'm sure I'm being silly, but I'm already fumbling in class and I fear this will make me even more nervous..... Aimee Wilson 8th Gup World Tae Kwon Do Federation Fort Worth, TX USA ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Ill Hello from Bloomington, Illinois. 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