From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #320 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 23 June 1999 Vol 06 : Num 320 In this issue: the_dojang: Instructional Videos the_dojang: KdM seminar the_dojang: Benko/renegades the_dojang: Re: instructional videos the_dojang: . ......................................................................... The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body of an e-mail (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last two years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KKrotish@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:22:36 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Instructional Videos << I am shopping around for some instructional videos on WTF forms, proper techniques for kicks and sparring tips. Instead of just picking some at random, I was hoping some of you may know of some videos that you thought were helpful or some you might have recommended to your students. >> You should check out the videos that the Taekwondo Educational Resource Center (TERC) has available. The hottest videos on the market right now are Dr. Jin Bang Yang's tapes called the Science of TKD Fighting. These are absolutely the best tapes you'll ever see on sparring methodology. Surf on over to: www.tkd-edu-resource.com Keith Krotish ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: KdM seminar Suro Mike Inay will be holding a Kadena de Mano (KdM) seminar on July 10/11, 1999, in Campbell, California (1 mile from San Jose, California, in the San Francisco Bay Area). Those successfully completing this two day seminar and passing the exam at the end will receive full Level 1 KdM Instructor Certification from Suro Inay. The cost of the two day seminar/certification is $275. Kadena De Mano is an Eskrima style that Suro Inay learned from the late GrandMaster Max Sarmiento. The literal translation of KdM is 'Chain of the Hands'. KdM is a combination of empty-hand and knife/dagger techniques. KdM covers basic and advanced hand and knife drills as well as permuted locks from the basic/advanced drills. Lock/flow/trap practice drills are stressed. Additional levels of certification are available after successful completion of Level 1. Those interested in attending or in obtaining more information should contact Suro Inay at eskrimador@aol.com. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Dennis McHenry" Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:01:32 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Benko/renegades Anders: > How can he not be a renegade? Any organization built > up by people who deliberately choose to have no > affiliation, should be considered for renegade-hood. Me: > Sorry, I didn't realize you meant that anyone not > affiliated with WTF is considered renegade. When you > put it like that, I guess you're right. Ray: > As I recall, Anders has more background in the ITF than in > the WTF.??. Sorry for any confusion. I wasn't assuming he was.... I was just thinking along the lines like General Choi splitting off to create his own org, or Grand Master Haeng Ung Lee who started the ATA and Songahm TKD, and even Grand Master Benko who created the ITA, maybe Hwang Kee who went his own way (or at least refused to follow the crowd). Anders: > He says that he focuses on traditional tkd and that tkd > should never change. Did he say that? I actually agree with you, I think MA should and does evolve. There's always something new to learn, new interpretations, techniques, etc. Anders: > To hold on to a snapshot of that > evolution and claiming to hold on to > "traditions" is ridiculous.>> Yeah, but if things drastically change, could you still consider yourself "traditional"? I was in a school once that focused on open point tournaments. They only taught 4 forms - 1 each for white belts, beginners, intermediate, and advanced (so they'd have a form to compete with in each of the major divisions). I sure didn't consider them traditional. Is a renegade someone then that doesn't adhere to the WTF standards, following the main official/recognized TKD organization? I guess that was what I thought he meant. ....I was thinking.... is being a renegade a bad thing? If you were trying to evolve and improve your TKD, would you be considered a renegade, or only if you wanted to keep the system the way you learned it and not change it from what you knew as the original or traditional TKD? Could be just plain politics and BS is why many instructors split off another organization - are they then renegades? And if you did (or your instructor and you followed) split off from your parent organization, would you then keep up with "their" changes and evolution, or continue along your own path (that would then make you a renegade)? I guess I don't see that as a big deal. To each his own. Different Grandmasters have their own ideas and view points. Not that they are wrong, just different. That is why there are so many associations and federations, martial arts, styles, etc. Keeps it interesting :-) BTW, I'm sure you did mention it before... sorry if I forgot... but I was just wondering what your style and affiliation was, I may be preaching to the choir. ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:45:55 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: instructional videos In a message dated 6/22/99 7:22:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I am shopping around for some instructional videos on WTF forms, proper techniques for kicks and sparring tips. Instead of just picking some at random, I was hoping some of you may know of some videos that you thought were helpful or some you might have recommended to your students. I am testing for my orange belt in about a month and I want to be completely prepared. >> aimee, i would recommend the kukkiwon videos. they are exceptionally clear, and include the taegueks. they come with the textbook offered by best martial arts/sang moo sa. you can find them at www.bestsms.com. i dont have any other videos on the taeguek forms. (i guess i'm just assuming that these are the forms you are being taught). i do have a coupla cd-rom's with basic history and the taegueks from front and side angles. those are both done quite well. one even includes the black belt forms. if you get any of these, remember that your instructor might teach you a little differently. he may have his own little nuances that he adds to forms....c'est la vie. it's the spice of life to have a little variety. both of the cd-roms were purchased through ads in tkd times magazine. i'm a very visual learner, so the videos were of more benefit to me than a book. some of the cd-roms are formatted so that you cannot have a full screen look at the poomse. however, if you go into "my computer" (if youre on windows), then explore your cd, you can find the avi files and access them directly, outside of the cd-roms pre-formatted preferences. then you can enlarge them on your desktop. great views. both at good prices too. i believe they are the only two cd-roms offered in tkd times. (not gm choi's legacy cd-rom....the one's i'm referring to above are both wtf, not itf) i also have the poomse flash cards which turtle press offers. i believe that they can be found at www.turtlepress.com. sometimes you can even get these more cheaply if you purchase other books or videos from them. and they have a wide variety of enlightening materials. you can find the items on their website, or request a catalogue. i would offer a little unsolicited advice, however. if you get the videos or tapes, dont skip ahead in your private studies of the taegueks. just work on the one your master wants you to work on. even if it begins to feel mundane for some reason, remember that they are a way to develop precision and hone your fundamental skills. hope this is helpful and good luck on your test :) melinda ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #320 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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