From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #379 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 3 Aug 1999 Vol 06 : Num 379 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #378 the_dojang: 7th Grade Decided Yellow Belt! the_dojang: Rank promotions the_dojang: Re: DD #378 titled "Proper Protection for Sparring" the_dojang: Re: Sparing? ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: The3Shaws@aol.com Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:39:58 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #378 In a message dated 8/2/99 6:36:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << We now have a chat room for members of the_dojang. >> Great idea Ray...and a fun chat room! Mary ------------------------------ From: Timothy Bruening Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: 7th Grade Decided Yellow Belt! Dear Karate Mailing List: I finally received my 7th Grade Decided Yellow Belt (Two degrees up from White Belt) in ITC Taekwondo at Rodness' Karate Center at 415 L Street in Davis, CA. Does anyone else on this mailing list attend a Karate School in Davis? I then began learning the Yellow Form. It starts with an outer forearm block (like pulling out a sword) to the left, then a right punch, then a transition to the right, then an outer forearm block to the right, then a left punch, then a double knife hand block to the front, then a right spear hand, with my left arm supporting my right hand, then I turn my right hand over and down as if I am twisting it out of someone's grasp, then I spin around 360 degrees counterclockwise and do a back fist with my left hand, then I yell "KI!". I believe that I will then have to face backwards and repeat the above steps. I was the senior student. I told everyone to "Chah ree uh(t)" (Attention) "Kyung N(R) Eh(T)" (Bow), then told the instructors to "Recite the Tenants of Taekwondo, Sijahk (Begin)". At the end of the class, everyone bowed to me. Sincerely, Tim. ------------------------------ From: Ken Ashworth Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:42:39 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Rank promotions I read this letter with real interest, I am now a black belt and like other people in my class it took me 4 1/2(approx.) years to reach black belt (Training Continuously) and was amazed that they are grading/testing you so quickly. Although you are more than likely doing a different syllabus (Ours is the ITF Do-san/Dan-Gun etc etc), I agree that a 2 month gap for perhaps the first 3-4 gradings but after that we slow down to about 2-3 tests a year! [Ken Ashworth] Our school test for gup every 3 months. That dosen't mean you will be ready. Our instructors have basic physical requirements you must pass in order to test. Pushups and situps. If a yellow belt candidate cannot do 20 pushups before testing, they don't get to test. (There is no fee for testing at our school). you have to be able to perform far better each time you test, do every technique to a higher standard, NOT just be able to perform the next higher pattern/form/kata etc, which a willing student could do in a couple of hours. [Ken Ashworth] Right. Kicks must be higher, punches stronger, forms crisper and more realistic. It has always bugged me when people say stuff like "Yeah, I made black belt in two years, what took you so long?". When I sat my black belt grading it was extremely hard work and of the dozen people grading not everyone passed. It really meant something to me because it was such hard work. I didn't want to pass if it meant turning up with a big smile and the examination fee. What would that have been worth?!! [Ken Ashworth] I want it to be hard. Otherwise where is the satisfaction. ------------------------------ From: "Bradley G. Smith" Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:38:49 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: DD #378 titled "Proper Protection for Sparring" Dear Mr. Tibbs, Bradley Smith here. Post WW II, the earliest safety gear I am aquainted with is the hogu chest protector, first constructed from a mix of cloth and bamboo, then later with synthetic materials. I am surprised if it is not the primary safety gear at tournaments, with other gear (head and limb protection) secondary. However I see all the primary and secondary gear seems required at tournaments these days. In the US in the 60's and 70's it wasn't too strange to see no required safety gear in competition, or sometimes a mouth guard. Best regards, Bradley Smith ------------------------------ From: dbuehrer@denver.carl.org Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:48:50 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Sparing? From: "kadin goldberg" \ \ When in sparring do people normally do full contact? Depends on the art :) At the Hapkido Dojang where I study, contact during sparing is minimal (you try for zero contact). The goal of sparing is to practice strikes and kicks with a live moving target, and to become familiar with what a strike or kick aimed at you looks like. It's not competitive and both students are expected to learn equally. When I was taking Karate, way back when, we had two levels of sparing. During "practice" sparing contact was light. We were expected to try different things and get a feel for moving. During "competitive" sparing pads were worn and contact was more significant. But, since solid contact was only required for points we weren't going "all out". You only had to hit a target area enough so that the judges knew you hit. \ I mostly just read all these things i do not normally send in digests but. \ What is with Tae-bo, I am sick of reading those damn things :) They are \ boring. Is tae-bo putting martial arts schools out of busness or what? I haven't seen any statistics. It would appear that it isn't very popular in the Denver Colorado area (I haven't seen any local advertisements or heard about local gyms doing Tae-bo). \ I wanna hear something exciting :) What is your definition of exciting? :) - -David Buehrer - -- Supervisor, Database Preparation The UnCover Company mailto:dbuehrer@denver.carl.org - -- - -- "The more I learn, the more I realize I don't know and the more I want to learn." - -Einstein ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #379 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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