From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #409 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 20 Aug 1999 Vol 06 : Num 409 In this issue: the_dojang: Broadened curriculums and fees. the_dojang: Re: Hapkido, Taekwondo in Oregon the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #406 the_dojang: Timid and scared Male M.A. Students the_dojang: message to cjudi@koreantigerstkd.com the_dojang: Test Fees the_dojang: Driving home tonight... Re: the_dojang: Driving home tonight... the_dojang: last reminder ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:04:29 CDT Subject: the_dojang: Broadened curriculums and fees. >>HKD generally requires each person to be taught separately due to >>differences in techniquese learned, level of experience, etc.. Our students get their $'s worth. BTW, the rate is $100/hour for private lesson, if you want.>>>> Just a couple questions to anyone...Should schools that offer a broadened curriculum say, HKD with TKD charge more? and do you feel that if HKD is not taught individually as stated above that the student is getting a disservice instead of a comprehensive martial arts instruction and education? This could apply to other combinations as well. Thanks. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: d g Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:34:00 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Hapkido, Taekwondo in Oregon From: Hapkido64@aol.com > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:42:23 EDT > Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido, Taekwondo in Oregon > > Hello all. > Was wondering if any of you could refer me to a good Hapkido-Taekwondo school > in the Aloha / Beaverton / Portland, Oregon area > thanks > Hapkido64@aol.com > > There is two kyukido schools in the Oregon Area that teach both these that you can check out. Both run by the same man. Kyuki-do Martial Arts Academy Mr. Phillip Stroup Newberg and Hillsburo, Oregon (503) 538-0150 I hope these are close enough. Donna - -- NO!! My cycle doesn't leak! It marks it's territory. ------------------------------ From: Chuck Sears Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:31:36 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #406 > From: "Jamaica Power" > Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:11:27 CDT > Subject: the_dojang: Are you Successful? > > Of course that's a term that means something different to everybody. But if > an up and coming student came to you and told you they wanted to be just > like you someday - And then they asked you what your recipe for success is, > what would you tell them??? > > I'm sure it would be different for those that are sports oriented, > traditional, spiritual, etc. > > But would you say it was a pinch of physical training, and a lot of > spiritual awareness mixed with years of mental disicpline and a feeling of > reward of giving to others. The realization of your own universal truth > mixed with dedication and blended gently with sweat and tears. > > Or perhaps success means finally breaking even and paying your bills on > time...or maybe even just being at peace with yourself... > Hi, Jamaica - good to see you posting again. We missed ya! Success? Doing what I love to do and doing it well. Is rich the same as successful? I'm living proof that it isn't. But I love what I do and I wouldn't change for the world. ------------------------------ From: "Jamaica Power" Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:30:33 CDT Subject: the_dojang: Timid and scared Male M.A. Students I always read so much about self defense courses exclusively for women and hear discussion about women that need more self confidence and to learn to be assertive or that have been abused and need to learn how to fight back verbally and physically but... I always wonder about timid and scared males. Don't you think martial arts is equally hard for them to join? I mean the image of a male black belt is pretty strong and can be intimidating even. If they are a timid, gentle, or scared soul that never even stepped on an ant well I would think even joining a class let alone sparring in class could be a very hard trip for them. Perhaps they even were abused verbally and physically at home, at work, or on the playground. But I never hear discussions about this! Has anybody had experience with a timid new male m.a.? How have you helped him overcome his hurdles? There are lots of self-defense classes for women but I don't know of any just for men?? Are there some and I just need to get up-to-date? JP _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: message to cjudi@koreantigerstkd.com Sorry for the blast-o-gram. Judi, e-mail to you at cjudi@koreantigerstkd.com consistently bounces back. You subscribe, the subscription acknowledgement bounces back as do all the subsequent digest issues. I remove your address due to the bounces and then you subscribe back and the circle happens again. You seem to be receiving the issues thru some other means, so... Just a heads up. Ray Terry rterry@best.com ------------------------------ From: NorwichIMA@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:11:46 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Test Fees At our dojang, we incorporate the testing fees into our tuition structure, that way, students do not feel like they are buying a belt, but the have actually earned it. I know it is just semantics, but it seems to make a difference in their attitudes. Our federation fees are quite low, our Dan fee currently stands at $50. Tang Soo Cherish ------------------------------ From: Stan Lim Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:01:40 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Driving home tonight... Friends and fellow martial artists, lend me your ears (or eyes, actually). I just had an alarming experience on my way from home today and wanted to reflect/vent/share. I was driving along Moorpark Ave in San Jose at 7:30 pm and I saw a white car approaching from a side street on my right. I don't know if the driver saw me, but he cut right out onto Moorpark and I had to step on my brakes to slow down considerably or I would have hit him. I honked in reflex simultaneously. The driver of the car slowed down his car, stuck out his left arm, waved it around and started yelling at me. I wasn't able to hear exactly what he said as I had my stereo on, but it was clearly not an apology. I honked again because he was slowing down, and at this point, he stopped his car right in the middle of the road and proceeded to get out of his car. As they say, when these things happen, it all goes by in a flash. I recall thinking, "He's looking for a fight!" and I was half-ready to step out myself. I'm not sure what reflexes kicked in but I took a quick look in the rear mirror, saw only one car behind me far away to not be effected, and stepped on the gas. I burned rubber on my car for the first time as I veered halfway into the oncoming lane to make my getaway. As I stopped at the lights about 500 feet away, I saw the driver get back in his car and I thought, "Man, if only I had my nunchucks :-)" Still, I was concerned that he was going to rear end me, and I took the right turn into Winchester Blvd as soon as I could. Fortunately he stopped at the light to go straight, but I made sure I drove a long ways away because the turn into my home street was visible where the driver's car was at. Didn't want to risk him following me home. Man, that's the biggest adrenalin rush I've had in a long time. I wouldn't say I was scared, but it was very unexpected. Now, in retrospect, I am very glad I avoided the confrontation at the cost of my tires. And, almost as fast as I wished I had my nunchucks, I remembered that they are illegal weapons in CA. And too bad I didn't remember to get his license plates or get a better look at the driver. It just happened too fast. Just remember folks, there are wacky people out there. You never know when you might run into them. Be careful. Thanks for listening :-) Stan Lim WTF-TKD, San Jose, CA ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: the_dojang: Driving home tonight... > Man, that's the biggest adrenalin rush I've had in a long time. I > wouldn't say I was scared, but it was very unexpected. Now, in > retrospect, I am very glad I avoided the confrontation at the cost > of my tires. And, almost as fast as I wished I had my nunchucks, > I remembered that they are illegal weapons in CA. And too bad I > didn't remember to get his license plates or get a better look at > the driver. It just happened too fast. Stan, You did the right thing. You might have played your TKD and your chuks cards, but he could have trumped your TKD & chuks and played a gun card... Most people probably know that I'm VERY pro-gun, but I'm not about to escalate an 'interpersonal encounter' to the point where said weapon might be brought into play. Been there, done that [stupid thing]. Looking down the barrel of a firearm is a very humbling experience... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: last reminder Reminder. Scheduled chat for members of the_dojang. Chatroom = http://www.escribe.com/martialarts/dojang/chat Friday, August 20, 1999 6:00 PM PDT (which I believe is 2:00 AM GMT/UTC/Zulu, Saturday, August 21, or is GMT 1:00 AM??) Ray Terry rterry@best.com ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #409 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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