From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #418 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 23 Aug 1999 Vol 06 : Num 418 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Breaking the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #417 the_dojang: Re: test break the_dojang: Soaps? the_dojang: Kumite/point sparring the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #417 the_dojang: Obi? the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~750 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stan Lim Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:27:46 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Breaking Julie, >I am trying to come up with a break to do for my second degree test. >The only requirements that I have been given are: > 1) impress the judges > 2) you must break >I have been thinking about cement blocks, soaps, but I am looking for >something that is not a normal break that others will be doing. I am >testing with two other people, both older, heavier males, and they are >doing 3-4 soaps, but I a female, 17 year old, want to be able to have a >break that wuld look just as good as theirs, however so far I have not >been able to break that many soaps. > >Any suggestions would be nice!! > >Thanks > >Julie >Pangie@owc.net What techniques are you good at? Are there mandatory breaks that you have to do? If you want to break cement blocks with your hands, here are a few ideas: - - Set the brick(s) on fire. Maybe it will impress your instructors, but probably not. (If you want to see a video of this, go to my school's web site http://www.jtc-tkd.com ) - - Have a stack of 2 or more bricks, and only break the bottom 1 or 2 bricks. (Need lots of practice, but it can be done) - - Break bricks with less common techinques (i.e. not the punch or chop) Try the reverse knife-hand/ridge hand chop, palm strike, elbow strike, hammer fist, etc. (If you can break bricks using spear-fingers, I'd take lessons from you) - - Head butt. Not a good idea, IMO, but I know one person in my dojang who did this before. He survived, but I hear he won't do it again :-) Here are some suggestions on board breaks: Women in general have better flexibility, so perhaps you can try breaking with kicks. One senior belt at my dojang has a full split, and she can break a 1/2" board placed behind her ear by swinging her foot all the way up. On the way down, she breaks another board with an axe kick. Does that description suffice? Other kicking techniques: - - Scissor kick, breaking 2 boards. - - Split kick, breaking 2 boards. - - Split kick, plus punching 2 more boards at the same time. - - Roundhouse and back-spinning kick, breaking 2 boards. - - VERY high front snap kick - - Bounce off a wall or a person's back and do a spinning roundhouse break Check out my school's web site. We have a few breaking videos there that might give you some ideas. Good luck! Stan Lim TKD, San Jose, CA ------------------------------ From: Don.Hahn@phs.com Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:35:20 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #417 It's annoying to see subject with a volume #, isnt' it? Take 2 seconds and change the headers, please. ------------------------------ From: dbuehrer@denver.carl.org Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:07:55 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: test break \ From: samiller@Bix.Com \ \ Julie wrote: \ \ >I am \ >testing with two other people, both older, heavier males, and they are \ >doing 3-4 soaps, but I a female, 17 year old, want to be able to have a \ >break that wuld look just as good as theirs, however so far I have not \ >been able to break that many soaps. \ \ Well, if those are really the only requirements, particularly if there is \ no minimum number/thickness for the object to be broken, or a requirement \ for a hand or a foot technique, you have quite a lot of latitude;>) \ Assuming the men you will test with are larger and stronger (and probably \ older;>) than you, I suggest that your advantage may lie in speed, and I'd \ suggest you consider taking advantage of that by doing a speed break of \ some kind. Spinning and/or jumping kick breaks are what usually seem to \ impress (beyond the sheer thickness of the object, anyway). Ditto that. The break that impressed me the most when a fellow student had to do a spinning hook kick for his 2nd Dan test. One person was holding the top of the board with two fingers, his arm extended straight out to the side. The testee's kick was so fast and so precise that it took the bottom of the board clean off, leaving the top of the board hanging from the holder's fingers. IMHO speed and precision are more impressive than power. - -David Buehrer - -- Supervisor, Database Preparation The UnCover Company mailto:dbuehrer@denver.carl.org - -- - -- "The light is reached not by turning back from the darkness, but by going through it." ------------------------------ From: "Aaron Harmon" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:17:55 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Soaps? Soaps? What are they? I assume you do not mean you are going to break stacks of video taped episodes of Days of Our Lives. Is soaps short for soapstone or something? I would really like to know. Thanks Aaron Harmon If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." - Maya Angelou ------------------------------ From: "Dennis McHenry" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:53:23 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Kumite/point sparring Ray, I agree with Michael. Point sparring is a different animal. It's just a game of tag, the first to tag (or touch) the other with the majority of judges seeing it gets a point. Think of it as fighting with no equipment at all, so safety and control is important. Equipment is just for safety, not for any contact. Now some people trying to go fast and get the point can tend to use more than light or moderate contact ;-) Not me of course.... So it's all speed. You don't even need that good of technique, as long as you touch first. The easiest to score with (and judges to see) is a leading diving in backfist. I too have just been left standing there and never saw it coming . The lead leg hop roundhouse is also an excellent and most often used technique. Many only use those 2 techniques, that's all. They don't worry too much about defense or getting creamed, because if they can touch first, "break" is called and you are re-set. You'd never fight like that in real life, where they might get a dinky backfist etc. in on you, but your power technique would knock them down/out. So if they are only going for "point" areas and aren't kicking with power, most will fight with their lead arm down, to protect their scoring targets. Only use rear leg or hand when the opponent has been set up for it or in a defensive manner. Otherwise, it's too slow and they can see it coming. If the groin is open (favors Japanese styles) a quick little snap kick is an easy score. Keeps head kickers at bay :-) So when you work on a backfist or jab, try it with the hand open (at extension)... it extends your hand (fingers) just a little more, same with kicks, extend your toes for more reach (you may already do that). Work on speed without advertising, that is, move your foot or hand first, before your body shifts weight or moves forward. This would be kind of like holding onto a rope and someone jerking it. Your hand would move first, pushing off with your rear leg in a diving forward motion (front foot would be the last to move forward, like leaning or falling forward and then catch yourself quickly with the front foot). Hop kicks (side, roundhouse, hook, etc) work on the same principle. They can close the gap and reach their targets so fast you may not see them coming. Most of them will fight with most of their weight on their rear leg, leaning back with their head out of the way to they don't get tagged with that dinky backfist so easy. Hope this helps, Mac ------------------------------ From: AJ Newlands Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:18:24 +1000 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #417 > \ I am trying to come up with a break to do for my second degree test. > \ The only requirements that I have been given are: > \ 1) impress the judges > \ 2) you must break > \ I have been thinking about cement blocks, soaps, but I am looking for > \ something that is not a normal break that others will be doing. I am > \ testing with two other people, both older, heavier males, and they are > \ doing 3-4 soaps, but I a female, 17 year old, want to be able to have a > \ break that wuld look just as good as theirs, however so far I have not > \ been able to break that many soaps. > \ > \ Any suggestions would be nice!! How about setting your teet objects alight first or doing a baseball bat break? Or ice, a la the karate kid, for that matter? Andrew ------------------------------ From: Steven Gilmore Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:36:18 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Obi? >The day ended with a dinner at a local Korean restaurant replete with Obi >(for those of us so inclined) You mean O.B.? The Korean beer? "O.B." being the initials for "Oriental Brewery", the manufacturer? Sincerely, Steven Gilmore Houston, TX, USA ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #418 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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