From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #428 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 29 Aug 1999 Vol 06 : Num 428 In this issue: the_dojang: Grandmaster Kim's Gold Cup Open Championships the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #426 the_dojang: Re: rebreakables the_dojang: Re: tang....soo....bahk the_dojang: RE: Chil Sung Forms the_dojang: Fees the_dojang: just a reminder the_dojang: Re: Injuries in MA the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #426 the_dojang: we're back the_dojang: Knife form, TSD? ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~750 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Grandmaster Kim's Gold Cup Open Championships Received in the mail... Founder Grandmaster Kim of Tae Kuk Mu Sul would like to invite you to the first annual Gold Cup Open Championship and Exhibition. This even will be held at San Juan High School, 7551 Greenback Lane in Citrus Heights, California on September 25, 1999. Registration should be postmarked or faxed by September 20, 1999 to aviod a $10 late fee. A 26-inch gold cup trophy will be awarded to the top scoring school. Check-in will begin at 8:30 AM with competition beginning at 9:30 AM. The tournament offers a variety of competitive categories to meet the diversity of skills, interests and styles. The sparring events follow the Tae Kwon Do Junior Olympic rules.... Guest Masters from all over the United States will conduct exhibitions and demonstrations at 5:30 PM... Please feel free to call us if you hve any questions at 916-331-7777 or 916-331-4444 or fax us at 916-339-1200. Singed, Founder Grandmaster Suk K. Kim, Tae Kuk Mu Sul Martial Arts World Association ------------------------------ From: LJSFLEM@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:39:42 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #426 In a message dated 8/27/99 7:25:23 PM !!!First Boot!!!, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Donna "your friend shouldn't kill you. You did not say her name" :) >> None of us knows who the GM is. That's fishy. I haven't said anything here that I haven't already said to the instructor or the assistant. When I am not comfortable my spirit tells me to go. I rely on my inner most feelings to guide me. MA allowed me to feel those things more deeply. I sometimes fail to listen and suffer the consequences. I try not to make the same mistakes twice. All part of the life's learning process. Lorraine ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:15:07 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: rebreakables In a message dated 8/27/99 12:25:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << The old type looked and was colored more like a real board. You had to slide them together from the sides. The new type (Century MA Supplies) push into each other at the "break" line, where pegs slide/snap into the other half. The back side of the board is definitely the back side, it's not reversible like the "old" style". It also has a rubber (padded) areas where your hands (palms) would be. All the edges are rounded, which helps prevent those cuts/bruises you could get kicking the edge of the board. >> for we wimpy folks who dont like getting our little fingers squished...do these fit into typical board holders or are they just too thin? melinda ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:13:24 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: tang....soo....bahk In a message dated 8/27/99 12:25:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I can't say conclusively why Andrew Pratt was unable to find Tang Soo Do books in Korea, except perhaps he might try looking under Soo Bahk Do. Grandmaster Hwang Kee renamed his style Soo Bahk Do in 1957. Only recently did the U.S. Tang Soo Do Moo Duk Kwan Federation change the name to the U.S. Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan Federation. Soo Bahk! Cliff Vaught >> this is pure idle curiousity......what are the meanings of "tang soo" and "soo bahk"? thanks :) melinda ------------------------------ From: "Mike Guzman" Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:33:04 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Chil Sung Forms Tom, I belong to the Asia Tang Soo Do Federation and we also practice the Chil Sung forms. The first Chil Sung form is one of our final forms before dan testing. I personally had a very hard time getting comfortable with the form, since my physique and abilities tend towards "hard" forms. It's still not my favorite, but I have come to appreciate the slower movements. Mike Guzman Bellevue, Nebraska ------------------------------ From: "Diane Goodman" Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:50:56 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Fees I remember when I was studying with Grandmaster Duk Sung Son in New York = City in the 1970s - it was $35.00/month for up to 6 classes a week, belt = testing fees were, I think, $10.00, but when you tested for black belt it = was a whopping $50.00!! When I went back to TKD in 1993, I was shocked at how much some of these = schools wanted to charge me. Luckily I found one that was reasonable.=20 I still don't approve of the schools that want to charge you for a whole = year up front. Yes, I know it often works out to a savings if you pay in = advance, and I know it costs a lot of money to run a school - but it seems = to me that some instructors are counting on a high dropout rate but = they'll get to keep the money anyway. BTW, I'd be interested in hearing from any of Mr. Son's current and former = students. Diane L. Goodman dgoodman@sarasota.lib.fl.us ------------------------------ From: "Ray Terry" Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:58:29 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: just a reminder Repost, a reminder. I'm sure Master Silz would appreciate any help y'all can lend... Ray Terry rterry@best.com - ------------------------------------------------------------ Dear USTU Club Owner, Re: USTU History Book Project For the last twenty-five years the USTU has striven to reach the goal of bringing American taekwondo-in ("taekwondists") to the Olympics. This year, primarily due to the efforts of President Lee and Executive Director Jay Warwick, the U.S. Olympic Committee designated the USTU as one of their Olympic Sports Organizations. This means, next year, our athletes will contest at the 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney, Australia, where taekwondo will be a Full Medal Sport. The history of this progress is a rich, exciting and inspirational story that I have been assigned to research and compile into a book to be published in the fall of next year. This is not one man's story, nor is it merely a story about our political leaders. It is also not only a story about our elite athletes. This is our story - the story of every American who has, in any way, been involved in the "Taekwondo Movement" over the last two-and-a-half decades. For this book to be as much of a success as it can be, your contributions, photographs, suggestions and assistance are absolutely essential. Please send me any photographs that you feel have historic significance; I guarantee their safe return when publication of the book is completed. Also, please send any stories or anecdotes that you believe may be interesting to others about the development of Olympic Taekwondo in America. As I shall be working closely with President Lee on this project, please address these items to my attention at his office: U.S. Taekwondo Center 1316 N. Academy Blvd. Colorado Springs, Colorado 80909 Please contribute, and ask others to contribute as well. You may soon see one of your photographs, or read one of your stories, memorialized forever in our Union's first history book. Yours in taekwondo, Master Steven E. Silz, Project Historian ------------------------------ From: Stan Lim Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:23:56 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Injuries in MA >From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com >Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:00:48 EDT >Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #425 > ><< A friend of mine, that goes to the same school of TDK as I do, is a >semi-red > belt. She is very unhappy with the way the school is being run lately. She > was injured in class not long ago - >> > >Dear Betty, >I write to you with 24 years of TKD experience, but I'm certain that injuries >a re a normal part of any martial artists training. That is pretty much it; >you can't learn taekwondo without both receiving and inflicting injuries. >This is not a happy thought, but it is absolutely truth. The good part is >that through enduring injuries one becomes mentally stronger and more >patient, two qualities a martial artist needs, no? I'm actually quite >surprised that your friend had made it nearly to black-belt and has sustained >just this one boo-boo. This is rather exceptional in my experience. >My advice: tell her to: 1. consider herself lucky (to have been hurt only >once) and, 2. "get over it." Good luck. >SESilz I just had to chime in here as what Master Silz says is absolutely true. I've had 3 major injuries (11 stitches on my right foot, broken left arm, and mangled right knee), and I've only managed to reach 3rd Kup. During sparring practice, I got hit by a roundhouse once that left me unable to eat for 3 days because my jaw was so sore. Twice, and by the same guy, I got kicked in the chest at full force that hurt so much, I though I had broken ribs (luckily, not). I don't even remember how many bad cuts, torn tissue, sprains, bruises, pulled muscles etc. Of course, I don't recommend that people go out of their way to get injured, or don't take the necessary precautions. All my serious injuries were accidents. Most could have been prevented with better control or precautions. But as Master Silz points out, injuries are part of the development of most serious martial artists. That said, if it is clear that people are getting injured due to negligence or poor instruction, then I think there are two clear courses of action: 1) Try to get the instructor(s) to change 2) Find a new instructor(s) or school All the best to you and your friend. Kamsahamnida. Stan Lim WTD-TKD, San Jose, CA ------------------------------ From: LJSFLEM@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:13:44 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #426 In a message dated 8/27/99 7:25:23 PM !!!First Boot!!!, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << My advice: tell her to: 1. consider herself lucky (to have been hurt only once) and, 2. "get over it." Good luck. SESilz >> IYHO are broken bones the norm in training? Lorraine ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: we're back The power is back and so are we... Ray Terry rterry@best.com ------------------------------ From: Steven Gilmore Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:45:02 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Knife form, TSD? >1. Start with feet shoulder width apart, hands at side. Knife is at left >hip, in sheath, edge upwards. Sounds Japanese in origin. "Kuk Sool sword drawing should not be confused with the Japanese system, iaido. While the Japanese sword is drawn in an inverted position WITH THE BLADE'S CUTTING EDGE FACING UPWARD [emphasis mine], the Kuk Sool sword is always drawn with the cutting edge facing down. "The reason behind the opposite drawing methods is because the Kuk Sool sword is drawn with the intention of making the first cut a circular upward slice, rather than the downward straight stroke that characterizes the first cut of a Japanese draw." - -- page 41, "Drawing and Sheathing": KUK SOOL WON SWORD TECHNIQUES, by In Hyuk Suh and Jane Hallander, 1991. Sincerely, Steven Gilmore Houston, TX, USA ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #428 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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