From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #436 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thurs, 2 Sept 1999 Vol 06 : Num 436 In this issue: the_dojang: ATA Boards? the_dojang: Re: MEANINGS OF SOO BAHK DO AND TANG SOO DO the_dojang: Re: not sure what to do the_dojang: Korean Buddhism the_dojang: TSD Knife Form the_dojang: Chang Hon meaning... Re: the_dojang: TSD Knife Form the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~750 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ATATKD@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:09:12 EDT Subject: the_dojang: ATA Boards? Does anyone know if there is a mailing list or meeting place online for ATA Members/Instructors? Ever since HQ took down the message board I have really missed the conversations (well, most of em :p ) Thanks Joe ATA #1 - Long Island, NY ------------------------------ From: CBAUGHN@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:00:56 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: MEANINGS OF SOO BAHK DO AND TANG SOO DO Cliff Vaught wrote: << Tang Soo Do translates to "way of the Chinese hand" with Soo meaning "hand" and Tang coming from the Tang dynasty. Some have also translated it as "way of the knife hand" >> Just curious, as I have no experience with Tang Soo Do -- If "Tang Soo Do" translates to "way of the Chinese hand," wouldn't "Tang Soo" translate to "Chinese hand"? Some of the TSD practitioners end messages with "Tang Soo!" Is there more significance to "Tang Soo" than the simple translation, or do the people who use it in that way actually mean to salute with "Chinese Hand!" Sally cbaughn@aol.com ------------------------------ From: CBAUGHN@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:00:59 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: not sure what to do Jim Nakashima wrote: << When he talked to me about this the thing he mentioned most was how I walk with my head up, back straight, and chest out. He says this is because of my ego. That may be true but I also have that sort of body type, where I work out and have developed my chest somewhat, not huge but somewhat. As well, when I was young I took gymnastics for a number of years where that kind of posture and stance is required and beaten into our minds. He wants me to walk more with my head down, shoulders slouched forward in a very humble position. I understand what he is saying but I'm not totally okay with that it. >> IMHO, this sounds like judging a book by its cover. Walking with your head down and shoulders slouched forward might only mean that you were lazy, rather than humble. Walking head up and shoulders back could mean that your parents nagged you about it from day one. ------------------------------ From: "Laura Kamienski" Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 22:59:27 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Korean Buddhism Hi All, I received the following information on a Buddhist list I'm on. I thought some of you might find it of interest. Laura lkamiens@ptd.net http://home.switchboard.com/LKamienski ____________________________________________________ "The destination is not the purpose of a journey; death is not the purpose of life." -Thich Nhat Hanh ____________________________________________________ Newly published book by Jimoondang (Seoul, Korea) Korean Buddhism:Tradition and Transformation. Korean Studies Series No. 8 By Jae-Ryong Shim Contents Preface Tradition 1. Son Buddhist Tradition in Korea 2. The Philosophical foundation of Korean Son Buddhism 3. Chinul's Place in East Asian Buddhism Transformation 1. Buddhist Responses to the Modern Transformation of Korean Society 2. General Characteristics of Korean Buddhism 3. A Buddhist Approach to the Perfection of Man 4. Geomancy. Korean Buddhism and Tourism 5. A Critical Appraisal of the Sudden/Gradual Debate in Korean Buddhism 6. Buddhist Translation in Korea 7. Buddhism, Democracy and Philosophy Education in Korea 8. Modernity and Religiosity of Korean People Today Appendix Glossary Bibliography Abbreviations Index The Jimoondang Publishing Company Phone 02-743-3192-3, 02-743-3096 Fax 02-742-4657, 02-743-3097 Address: 95 Waryong-dong, Chongno-gu, Seoul, Korea ------------------------------ From: "Dennis McHenry" Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 22:08:56 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: TSD Knife Form > I believe that form (from what I can tell from the little illustration) can also > be found in one of Dan Nolan's videos, from Panther Productions. As a Tang Soo > Do Black Belt knife form. Maybe Mr. Nolan can give the history? Well guys, I did ask Master Nolan. Here is his reply: Hi Dennis, The knife form was taught to me by my instructor, the late Jong Hyan Lee. Now Master Lee spent 10 years in the Korean Marine Corps and I believe that is where he learned that form. As far as I know, he was the only TSD instructor teaching that form. Another mystery to the TSD puzzle. .........dan Hope that helps. Mac TANG SOO! ------------------------------ From: David Gordon Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:33:49 GMT Subject: the_dojang: Chang Hon meaning... What is the meaning of Chang Hon / Chang Hun and where did it come from (which Grandmaster)??? Thanks. - -- David - 1st Dan, TKD Oh, and is there a web page that list them? Thanks. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: the_dojang: TSD Knife Form > > I believe that form (from what I can tell from the little > > illustration) can also > > be found in one of Dan Nolan's videos, from Panther Productions. As > > a Tang Soo > > Do Black Belt knife form. Maybe Mr. Nolan can give the history? > > Well guys, I did ask Master Nolan. Here is his reply: > > Hi Dennis, > The knife form was taught to me by my instructor, the late > Jong Hyan Lee. Now Master Lee spent 10 years in the Korean > Marine Corps and I believe that is where he learned that form. > As far as I know, he was the only TSD instructor teaching that > form. Another mystery to the TSD puzzle. .........dan I picked it up from one of the many students of TKD MDK GM KANG Myung Kyu of Sacramento, CA. He is recongized in Hwang Ki's History of the MDK as one of the early MDKers in the US. Perhaps Hwang Ki taught it to this students??? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #436 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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