From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #444 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 7 Sept 1999 Vol 06 : Num 444 In this issue: the_dojang: Mr. Silz's comment the_dojang: new schools/changing organizations the_dojang: The (shamelessly) Unofficial and Unauthorized USTU Website Project the_dojang: Re: V6 #442: breathing the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~750 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kim Jones Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Mr. Silz's comment > Your comment is quite true however, "liking it," I submit, is not > necessarily the most important thing (although to us Americans it does > seem to rank rather highly) about an endeavor. Any adult understands that > to attain a reasonable degree of skill in something, a long time may be > required...and it may not turn out to be much fun. A mature individual > proceeds, however, in pursuit of a goal. (No military could ever function > without a specific period of enlistment, for example.) I agree wholly here with Mr. Silz. While I enjoy the martial arts to the fullest extent, some parts (like busting toes and having to spend time out to regroup) I don't really like but put up with because I know in the end if I let something miniscule get in the way of attaining my ultimate goal, it shows how weak I was overall not to overcome and believe in that indomitable spirit. There are things you will come across in life that you will despise, but you have to put up and somehow overcome to achieve or attain your ultimate goal. > For a child, well, children rarely select what is best for them, therefore > are rarely (and rightfully) granted complete authority over, say, their diet, > their educational pursuits, their religious affiliation, or their choices of > recreational activities, to name a few. Parents, quite rightfully, make or > at least carefully advise these decisions. Should one's parents choose for > their child to attend martial arts classes for a certain length of time - -- > in pursuit of a specific level of proficiency -- the child needs to comply > with their parents wishes (and should be thankful for their parents support) > just like a parent enrolling their child in Sunday School to learn about > their religious ideology. Some parents might see the overall benefits of enrolling and sticking with a martial arts regimen, but at such a young age, many little ones (if they don't like it) will often fight their parents or not give it their all. I know I would have been glad if my parents relented and decided to enroll me; I had been beggin' to try the martial arts!!!!! That's not the point, however. This goes back to a different mind-set of doing as you're told. Besides, exposure to different activities at a young age broadens the mind-set of little ones. They might not appreciate the martial arts when they're young, but once they hit adolescence, they might see the value and dive back in. > As an instructor, I advocate thinking along these lines and do not see any > abuse in requiring longer terms of enrollment. Should a potential student > not think similarly they simply need not register. After all, the instructor > should establish his or her programs and code of operation. ...and the > student has the choice to take his or her "business" wherever they so please. Yup. The instructor neither loses or gains by having a dissatisfied student take their business elsewhere; it's one less person that gains knowledge from them, which can be good or bad; take it as you will. Freedom of choice enables many American to enjoy an almost infinite amount of possbilities as far as how they spend their free time. You're basically free to decide if you want to study or not based on what you deem worthy, but my idea of "worthy" might be completely 180° from what you deem "worthy." My $.03 to Mr. Silz's comment. === Kim Jones (ladytimberland@yahoo.com) Webpage - http://members.tripod.com/NekoChan00/ AOL IM - OmegaKage IcQ - 46316779 (Timberland Monk) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 13:03:42 PDT Subject: the_dojang: new schools/changing organizations Hey all: I am a relatively new member (well, new poster) around here and was hoping that someone could give me some advice. I am currently in graduate school and am about 6 and a half hours away from my instructor (not a fun drive but worth it if I have a long weekend). Anyway, my training is not what I'd like it to be because of classes, etc. so I have taken to solo training 3 to 4 times a week. Does anyone know of any ITF schools (USTF or KATU) in eastern Ohio, western West Virginia, or western Pennsylvania? I am not an ITF certified black belt but have been doing the Chang HUn tuls for 13 years, since I started TKD. I have attended a seminar with Gen. Choi and a training camp with Grandmaster Serreff but my instructor (who IS certified by the ITF) doesn't make it a habit of geting ITF certificates for his students. Please note, this is NOT a slam on this man. He is extremely skilled, kind, and quite humble. He just doesn't like politics. I am looking for official ITF recognition so I can go elsewhere and train with less of a problem. Thanks in advance. Chris Spiller ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Gregg London Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 08:46:42 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: The (shamelessly) Unofficial and Unauthorized USTU Website Project Good Day Group, As has been reported in this Digest, the USTU Website received some very positive (and needed) changes. And just as qucikly, those same changes were removed. Many have asked why. I don't know. But I do know that many people were excited about the effort (reading the feedback in this Digest). To that end, I am announcing the (shamelessly) Unofficial and Unauthorized USTU Website Project. Read more about this work, and participate at: http://www.glondon.com/ustu.html Respectfully, Gregg London - -- Gregg London Consulting Internet/Notes Development http://www.glondon.com Corporate/Trade Show Magic 703-242-7548 Tournament Automation Services ------------------------------ From: samiller@Bix.Com Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: V6 #442: breathing Cplr50@aol.com wrote: >I couldnt agree more with you, the tensing seems to be a bit rough on the >ones 'system'... however, yoga folks have been doing it for a quite a >while. >It makes one think that perhaps the old ways may not always be the wisest.. > >although Ive never had head pains with it.. I have had quite a few good >head rushes from it :) Well, beginning hatha yoga (at least Indra Devi's method) doesn't include too many breathing techniques that require holding, and none of those require the exertion of "pressure". Perhaps you refer to Kundalini, or "Serpent" techniques. I never got that far, but Devi strongly cautioned against practice of those techniques by any but advanced students in the proper environment. === Tang Soo! Scott ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 08:17:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #444 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com ===================================================================== To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in pub/the_dojang/digests. 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