From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #490 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 9 Oct 1999 Vol 06 : Num 490 In this issue: the_dojang: purse snatchers the_dojang: taekwondo and hapkido the_dojang: burnouts the_dojang: combat arts the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #489 the_dojang: Re: combat martial arts Re: the_dojang: combat arts the_dojang: Brentwood Tenn the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~750 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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However, no matter how ticked off one might be, I always stress that it's best to try to regain your senses and not act irrationally. Sure you might want to cause some serious injuries to an attacker, but what would the ramifications of that be? Whatever situation you might be in, you should still be able to think logically, because going all out can make things worse. Sincerely, Emil Fisk ------------------------------ From: edwin davis Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 11:33:06 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: taekwondo and hapkido i'm new to the list and i seen the question on combat hapkido. i'm 27 years old,never practiced any type of marial arts,but just started taking tae,and hapkido at the same time.I've notice a lot differences between the two,and i do recommend the hapkido to anyone who would like to learn a self defence style. I have found many of the moves are easy to use in every day use so i beleive it to be very useful. Edwin Davis edavis @us.hsanet.net ------------------------------ From: "Emil J. Fisk" Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 23:38:45 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: burnouts Hi, I suffered a burnout myself not too long ago. In fact, I just got over it several months ago. I had been teaching for almost 3 years before I decided that I was sick of it. I couldn't stand all the children and my constantly repeating myself about what they were doing. My biggest problem was that I was teaching literally hundreds of primary school kids in several different schools. It might've gotten a bit too repetitive in terms of the techniques taught, as well as my constantly trying to discipline them to no avail. Needless to say, after some time it got more tedious rather than interesting and fun. After a two year break from teaching while pursuing my studies, I have returned to teaching. I still see some of the same students I had two years ago, but they've matured slightly. Some people have also received their blackbelts, and adult classes have started. It's a completely different experience teaching blackbelts and adults, and I must say that I have really enjoyed it these past few months. I'm actually teaching something, and having students understand the messages I'm trying to convey, rather than having children imitate my movements. I think personal training is an important part of teaching as well. Obviously, we continue to learn and advance from the teaching experience. I took up judo while I was studying, and it was fun learning again and being a student. Now that I'm back in TKD, I'm both a student and a teacher, which I find a lot more satisfying. But for two years I was completely out of TKD. However, you have to remember that 2 years is a long time, and a lot of people might choose not to return at all. After a while, complacency can get comfortable. Good luck. Hope everything works out. Sincerely, Emil Fisk ------------------------------ From: "Mike Roberts" Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 15:40:37 GMT Subject: the_dojang: combat arts >However, Taekwondo and Hapkido are generally both good self-defense > >martial arts regardless of the organizational or political >affiliation. >Ray Terry I heard that taekwondo is more of a sport and not really that good for real fighting. I have heard that hapkido is a good self defense art, but then I read that you can't really do hapkido on a person that doesn't let you do it. One friend of mine said to learn to box if I wanted to learn to fight. I'm just trying to figure out what the best thing to train in should be. thanks ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: d g Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 09:18:27 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #489 > > > From: "Mike Roberts" > Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 21:00:09 GMT > Subject: the_dojang: combat martial arts > > I have seen ads for combat taekwondo and combat hapkido. Does anyone know > if these are good self defense martial arts. > I've never heard of the combat tkd. Who teaches this? I have been to J. Pelligrini's seminar and Master James West's. I'd advise West's anyday. Sorry Mike Rowe but I still feel that Pelligrini's style is not right. It is good hapkido, but West's is better. Learn all the hapkido there is to know. Not just what a person feels will work. I am just a colored belt so I could be wrong but I prefered West's seminar over Pelligrini's. It was fun, informative, I learned more and want to go again. Donna - -- NO!! My cycle doesn't leak! It marks it's territory. ------------------------------ From: "Jon David Payne" Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 11:13:11 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: combat martial arts >>I have seen ads for combat taekwondo and combat hapkido. Does anyone know if these are good self defense martial arts.>> I, for one have experience with Combat Hapkido. I really enjoyed the time I spent in it. Be fore-warned however, people like to attach controversy to GM Pelligrini, who is the founder of the system. Combat Hapkido is a simplified version of Hapkido geared towards the middle-aged, and is strictly for self-defense. I found the techniques to be easy to learn, but effective none-the-less. It is not traditional Hapkido, nor does it claim to be. It is however recognized by the World Kido Association (KIDOHAE) as a Korean martial art. The International Combat Hapkido Association (ICHF) has a website with good information. Hope this helps. Jon David Payne 1st Dan Taekwondo 6th Gup Combat Hapkido ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: the_dojang: combat arts > > However, Taekwondo and Hapkido are generally both good self-defense > > martial arts regardless of the organizational or political affiliation. > > I heard that taekwondo is more of a sport and not really that good for real > fighting. I have heard that hapkido is a good self defense art, but then I > read that you can't really do hapkido on a person that doesn't let you do > it. One friend of mine said to learn to box if I wanted to learn to fight. > I'm just trying to figure out what the best thing to train in should be. Taekwondo and Hapkido are both good self-defense martial arts regardless of the organizational or political affiliation. Also throw in KSW, Hanmudo, Hwarangdo, Tangsudo, etc. We even see that Taekkyon has been used effectively in self-defense (and self-offense :) situations and it is -only- a sport. What is taught in one particular school vs. another can vary greatly. That search and research is up to you. But never believe those that try to convince you that TKD or HKD are ineffective. With the right instructor something as seemingly non-MA-like as Tai Chi can be highly effective. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Tkdtiger@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 15:28:21 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Brentwood Tenn Hey everyone - Sorry I have been absent for awhile- and will probably be gone awhile longer - - I am traveling each week M-F to Brentwood Tenn - probably every week until Christmas. *lucky me!" Does anyone know of a cardio-kickboxing etc... class in that area - after 4 weeks of eating out and gaining weight - and now to find out this is going to last a few months.......... Brentwood is near Nashville btw. Thanks Ronda J. Sweet ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #490 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com ===================================================================== To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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