From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #493 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 11 Oct 1999 Vol 06 : Num 493 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #492 the_dojang: RE: combat hapkido/fighting the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #492 the_dojang: Purse snatching the_dojang: Quest for Fire the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #492 the_dojang: 19 Years the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~750 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Donnla Nic Gearailt Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:35:48 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #492 In message <199910111428.HAA02599@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com> you write: > >The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 11 Oct 1999 Vol 06 : Num 492 > >In this issue: > > the_dojang: running as self defense > the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #491 > the_dojang: Movie Fighting > the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #491 > the_dojang: Introductions > the_dojang: Re: Only the strong > the_dojang: Low-Green Belt > the_dojang: A New Game > the_dojang: Re: Combat Hapkido > the_dojang: Re: Combat Hapkido > the_dojang: . >========================================================================= > >The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~750 members strong! >Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource > >Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. > >To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in >the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed >to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. > >To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com > >See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four >years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com > >Pil Seung! > >Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >From: TaoArt@aol.com >Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:26:31 EDT >Subject: the_dojang: running as self defense > >Donnla writes: > ><< In a self-defense class (taught by an ex-military thai boxer) I was taught > > that if you carry your bag on > one shoulder, and someone grabs it, just run. > IMHO 400m sprint training is the most effective self-defense > sport. Seriously. >> > >ONLY when it is safe to do so. What if you are with two of your small >children? What if you are injured? What if you have no idea where to run TO >? > >In our courses we teach that running is the best defense IF it is safe to do >so. There are many times that turning your back to an attacker is NOT the >wisest thing to do... unless they are lying on the ground clutching their >dislocated knee... Yes of course, I agree that it is not always possible. I did not intend to suggest that one should not learn self-defense techniques - I agree that running is not always option. Point taken. However, in the context people were citing, ie a motorcyclist comes up, grabs your purse and runs off, pursuing him/her or trying to take them on is probably not a good idea. Of course if you are confident that you _can_ dislocate someone's knee it will make them think twice about trying it again :-). Donnla. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Donnla Nic Gearailt dbn20@cl.cam.ac.uk tel: +44-1223-334619 http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~dbn20/ Computer Laboratory, New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG, UK. ------------------------------ From: "Krause, John" Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 08:59:29 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: combat hapkido/fighting >>I have seen ads for combat taekwondo and combat hapkido. Does anyone >>know if these are good self defense martial arts. I would like to respond to this and a comment I saw earlier about a question on which martial art teaches you to fight better. One response to the earlier question said that if all you want to do is fight, go to prison; there is no better place to learn. This sort of applies here. Combat Hapkido usually focuses only on the fighting aspect of the art. The internal art and healing art are left out. If you leave these out, you are truly missing something. Also, the whole art is integral; improvement in one area helps the others. If you focus only on the fighting, you will be selling yourself short. I have had the fortune of studying indirectly (1 level away) under two different Hapkido masters. Both were in Vietnam, both had on the order of 80 kills using Hapkido. Both stress the full art. Both will readily admit they have their favorite moves. However, both will stress that different people will find different moves more applicable to a given situation. Combat Hapkido reduces the number of techniques you learn, reducing the chance of finding techniques that work really well for you. Remember, any technique that is not taught is a technique that is not passed down through history, and is in jeopardy of being lost. I find Hapkido to be an excellent self-defense art. I would urge anybody looking at taking it up to study it, and to study the full art. It is a very complete art, and is difficult to learn. I am definitely still learning myself. As somebody said: Even though the learning curve is steep, the view from the top is magnificent. JCK ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:43:20 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #492 In a message dated 10/11/99 7:26:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << say you're going on a trip, and take a person or object beginning with your first initial. For Example: I'm Tim, I'm going on a trip, and I'm taking the Tenants of Taekwondo, a Taekwondo Test, a Taekwondo Tournament, a Twin Outer Forearm Block, a Twin Inner Forearm Block, and a Third Degree Black Belt. >> But you took more than one thing with you ... so now you have me confused. I thought you said to bring an object ... not objects (plural). Illona ------------------------------ From: JEREMYT@ATFI.COM (JeremyT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:37:42 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Purse snatching M. Gardner wrote: "We tell our students to never wrap the purse strap across the body... because some snatchers will then resort to cutting the purse strap with a razor blade (usually tucked between the fingers). This is not so uncommon in NYC. And if they fail to cut it fully, they will drag you down in an attempt to rip it away from you." Good point. In my area of Chicago, it is not as common for them to take them from people who have them wrapped. (I guess Chicago criminals aren't as ballsy as NYC criminals 8?) ). Most of the cops that I have discussed this with have directed me to the wrapping method. However, different area different ways. Jeremy WJDKF/MACS ------------------------------ From: JEREMYT@ATFI.COM (JeremyT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:56:15 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Quest for Fire Congratulations Alain on another published article. You're doing well this month with Author of the Month from Paladin Press and now your article. Jeremy WJDKF/MACS ------------------------------ From: TXHAPKIDO@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:02:57 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #492 In a message dated 10/11/1999 9:26:28 AM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I'm glad you had fun at Master West's seminar that is what it is about. I have an extremly good time at GM Pellegrini's seminars. That is the beauty of America you have choices. Mike Rowe Nebraska Director - ICHF Author of "Combat Hapkido - Prinicples of the Science of Self Defense" >> I was wondering about Mr. Pellegrini's lineage as I've never read anything about him. I know about J. R. (that's Jeff, not James) West's history. Also, does anybody know about a guy named Scott Shaw? Just wondering, I don't have much time for research. Thanks. Randall Sexton ------------------------------ From: JEREMYT@ATFI.COM (JeremyT) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:06:38 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: 19 Years Yesterday I was proud to celebrate my 19th year in martial arts. It is weird how time, trends, and experiences fly by. Jeremy WJDKF/MACS ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #493 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com ===================================================================== To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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