From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #503 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 15 Oct 1999 Vol 06 : Num 503 In this issue: the_dojang: Hapkido forms the_dojang: inlighten me the_dojang: Re: quotes & poems the_dojang: Re: Two arts at a time the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #501 the_dojang: Contact during sparring the_dojang: Master J R West the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~775 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 23:09:05 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido forms I did not think Hapkido had forms. The closest I learned were a short set of no more than five moves in Chont'ong (traditional) Hapkido, and they had no relation to practical techniques. I agree with our comments about high/jumping kicks. Yours, Andrew Andrew, The school I trained at in Kangnung incorporated forms into the training. School is under the Korea Hapkido Federation, Oh Se Lim - President. We practiced Hyung every class. Not a lot of them thought. Kwanjangnim would say, "Taekwondo has many Hyung, Hapkido only a few, so learn them very well and perform them perfect." I can not speak for all KHF schools in Korea, but mine practiced Hyungs as well as kicking, falls, joint locks, throws, weapons, etc.... Yours in Training, Alain ------------------------------ From: "kadin goldberg" Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:36:51 MDT Subject: the_dojang: inlighten me Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions... I am 15 years old and want to be in a type of martial arts... the only problem is that I live in a town that does not have any place to learn. Closest place is about 60 minutes away and I am not sure if the parents would drive me there how ever many times I have the class. Anything would be great. one and only, Kadin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: dequayle@olypen.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:00:16 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: quotes & poems >From: GIJo66286@aol.com >Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:54:32 EDT >Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #501 >Hi >I am looking for some inspirational quotes and poems...... >If anyone has some I would sincerely appreciate it if you could send them to >me! >Thanks These are a couple of quotes I put in my recent TKD newsletter: To know oneself is to study oneself in action with another person. - --Bruce Lee in _Tao of Jeet Kune Do_ You can't help someone get up a hill without getting closer to the top yourself. - --General H. Norman Schwarzkopf ------------------------------ From: dequayle@olypen.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:57:09 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Two arts at a time > Subject: the_dojang: Re: Two arts at a time > > Please pardon me if I am a couple of days behind, I'm just catching up. > It is my opinion and just about everyone else that I have talked to that one > should become proficient in one system before branching out and training in > some other art. Proficient to me means Black Belt. ... > > Pil Seung > Stan Wojcoski > Stan, I would feel disrespectful if I studied another art under a different instructor if I did not consult my TKD master first. However, in our school, we have spent time learning Hapkido techniques with an emphasis on self-defense, and have coordinated them with our TKD skills. We have also tried a few Tai Chi moves to balance ourselves before a workout. My instructor shares his dojang with one of the local Tai Chi instructors and supports his students taking those classes for self-improvement. Our grandmaster teaches Hapkido at his dojang; our benefit is that we get occasional mini-seminars in Hapkido from him or our instructor. We don't practice Hapkido to earn belt ranks in Hapkido; nor do we expect to become proficient in Tai Chi just through occasional mini-lessons. Studying more than one art can be possible or conflicting. depending upon one's approach. I believe that coordinating skills and keeping my sights on one black belt goal at a time works for me. Darlene 1st kup Port Hadlock, WA ------------------------------ From: TXHAPKIDO@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 03:07:20 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #501 In a message dated 10/14/1999 6:53:59 PM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << From: Don.Hahn@phs.com Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:30:40 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Time for Research << If you don't have time, I would suggest training on the mat versus wondering about lineage. >> Chill out, Don, mat time is exactly why I don't have time for research in the lineage of others in my chosen art. Please don't try to quell my quest for knowledge or my use of a few minutes on the PC in order to efficiently reach others who might quickly provide me with even more knowledge. I wondered about the lineage of everyone I've trained with which is why I checked them out prior to joining them. If you noticed the time of this post, you see I've been up almost 24 hours, getting smarter by the minute! Sir Randall of Austin www.txzenshiatsu.com ------------------------------ From: "Hayes, Tommy" Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:30:27 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Contact during sparring Hi folks, I train ITF style here in Ireland, and when we spar during class we do so as continuos sparring. It isn't full contact, as we don't try to hurt each other, however we do try to ensure that our opponent 'realises' they've been hit (and not by having to tell them verbally afterwards!). We just had someone join our dojang who originally trained in Canada, and he is more used to point sparring, where all he's looking for is the one quick hit. I've noticed differences in our techniques when sparring, where he is concentrating much more on speed rather than technique. For example, for a hook kick, I would turn my hip fully in order to connect properly. If I miss, I can always follow it up with some reverse technique (hopefully!). However, this new guy would throw the same hook kick at a 45 degree angle, and even though it comes out slightly faster, there is not half as much power in it. And seeing as he's just looking for the quick point, that's all that counts. Thing is, it almost becomes like a game of 'tag', where the purpose is just to touch the opponent through their guard. (The proof that the guy is used to point sparring is that when he scores a point against you he still has a habit of turning around and walking away! This usually leaves the opponent just stopping short of automatically side kicking what is now his back in bewilderment! Of course, it just takes time to get used to different ways - if I went to his dojang I'm sure people would be looking at me in bewilderment too!) Obviously, different techniques are appropriate in different situations, but I still don't feel entirely comfortable incorporating his sparring style into mine, even for point sparring. Is it possible to develop 'traditional' techniques, such as full hip hook kick, to the extent of being able to use it in point sparring? Or am I better off having one 'set' of techniques for continuos and another set for point scoring? Tommy. ------------------------------ From: Tkdtiger@aol.com Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:59:27 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Master J R West Missed part of this thread - but who is Master J R West? He isn't in his early 20's and Mrs. West isn't his mother, is she? Where are they from? I am sure they cannot be the people I am thinking of, but the coincidence of the names is too much. Ronda ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 06:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #503 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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