From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #510 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 18 Oct 1999 Vol 06 : Num 510 In this issue: the_dojang: Chiun the_dojang: Tournament Promotions the_dojang: Chiun, Master of Sinanju the_dojang: Books the_dojang: The Movies the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #508 the_dojang: Training while ill the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~775 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tkdtiger@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:22:44 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Chiun In a message dated 10/17/99 4:42:40 PM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I'm sorry.....I just have to: "Chinese! Phah! The Korean is the most gifted creature ever to grace the Earth with the imprint of his foot!" Choon, from the movie Remo Williams >> Sorry - now I have to - you dare insult the Master of Sinanju? Chiun - not the infidel choon. There is a link to their site on my ladytkd links site - I have the first 98 books ------------------------------ From: Tkdtiger@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:24:07 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Tournament Promotions OK - new topic - what do you think of instructors that put black belts on red and blue belts for tournaments? and what do you think of instructors that let higher ranks put on a lower belt to compete? ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:20:17 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Chiun, Master of Sinanju In a message dated 99-10-17 17:44:48 EDT, you write: << "Chinese! Phah! The Korean is the most gifted creature ever to grace the Earth with the imprint of his foot!" Choon, from the movie Remo Williams >> Not to get too picky, but it is Chuin, Master of Sinanju. For those that don't have a clue on this thread, there is a action adventure series called "The Destroyer" written by Warren Murphy and Richard Sapir. (allthough at some point Sapir stopped and just Murphy's name was on them) This series started in 1972 if I remember correctly, and there have been hundreds of them. The main characters in the series are Remo Williams and Chiun. Remo is an American, who is "erased" and then incorporated into an organization that works just for the President. The organization hires Chiun, the Korean Master of Sinanju (The art that all martial arts come from) to train Remo to perform his missions. The Master of Sinanju is the reigning master of a long line of assassins. The series was put on the big screen in 1985 in the movie "Remo Williams" Even though Joel Grey did a decent job as Chuin, and I liked the movie, they didn't reflect Korea very well. They made the character more Chinese, goes to show what Hollywood knows. When I was in Korea, the movie was on TV. Yi Saeng thought the character was supposed to be Chinese. I said, "no, he is supposed to be Korean." She said they didn't know anything about Korea. So, now everyone who didn't know what we were talking about has a clue. Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:33:22 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Books In a message dated 99-10-17 17:44:48 EDT, you write: << Buy some martial art books and videos and study. One good read is Zen and the Martial Arts. A good person to ask about this is Alain Burrese. How bout it Alain, any good books for Valdo? Jon David Payne >> I have lots of good books. Try to pick some that cover areas you are interested in. I've already posted some of the authors I like for realistic self-defense, but here are just a few I have liked for more of the older warrior teachings. Three translated by William Scott Wilson: The Book of the Samurai: Hagakure by Yamamoto Tsunetomo Ideals of the Samurai: Writings of Japanese Warriors Budoshoshinsju: The Warrior's Primer of Daidoji Yuzan (the last one is also published as Code of the Samurai by another translater, and I just saw a new version translated by T. Cleary) Bushido The Warrior's Guide by Inazo Nitobe A Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi (many translations, I have at least four of them) The Art of War (many translations, I think I have three or four) The Lost Art of War (My translation is by T. Cleary. I have a lot of things Cleary has translated) Tao Te Ching (Again, this book has many translations, I have at least three or four of it as well. Even one that is in English and Korean) I don't know if one translation I have is better than the others of the books that I have multiples of. Some are hard cover, some are paper back, or pocket books. For one reason or the other, I wanted the additional translation, and at times I will look to see how they differ. This is a good start of some of my favorites, and ones that are very well known. You can even get some of these off of the internet. Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: "kadin goldberg" Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:43:52 MDT Subject: the_dojang: The Movies When 2 very very good martial arts get together and sparr would they look like the people on the movies, like how it looks when a fight is choreographed??? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: TXHAPKIDO@aol.com Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:42:02 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #508 In a message dated 10/17/1999 9:23:23 AM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I have to stay at complete rest for some time and what is worst, I won't be able to do any proper training for at least 6-10 months. This thoroughly appalles me. The only thing I can think of that I'll be able to do little by little is to maintain my flexibility and stretch. >> Perfect time for Ki exercises! Randall ------------------------------ From: burdickd Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:51:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Training while ill "Vlado" wrote that he was to abstain from physical training for at least six months and asked what he could do in the meanwhile. My suggestions would be threefold: 1. Mentally rehearse the techniques in your head. Thinking about doing something is about half as good as doing it, and you will find that visualizing the forms and techniques will continue to help you grow in skill. 2. Catch up on your reading. There's a lot of great books out there that can help your training. Not only are there t'aekwondo books out there, but you could also read up on philosophy (the _Analects_ of Confucius; the _Tao te ching_ of Lao-tzu, and Sun-tzu's _Art of War_ spring to mind; as does Marcus Aurelius's _Meditations_), anatomy (check out your closest medical library!), Korean language courses, structural kinesiology texts, or the wealth of books on all the other martial arts. This is reading you will want to do before you start teaching anyways, so just get it done now while you are laid up. 3. Meditate. If you're not the bookworm type, try a variety of meditation routines and explore your body from the inside. It might help you control your pain and keep a positive mental attitude as well. Lastly, take heart. All of us gets sick sooner or later, so this is not something that you have been singled out for. Follow your doctor's advice and get better soon, so you can come back and play with us some more! Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 06:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #510 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com ===================================================================== To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in pub/the_dojang/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, Martial Arts Resource, California Taekwondo Standard disclaimers apply.