From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #513 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Tues, 19 Oct 1999 Vol 06 : Num 513 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Tournament Promotions the_dojang: Re: Letting higher ranks put on a lower belt to compete the_dojang: using corners/sides the_dojang: Chiun the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~775 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon David Payne" Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:54:07 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Tournament Promotions >>On a side note, I actually had an acquaintance with almost 15 years experience in MA that was proud of beating up a white belt in class. This guy also happened to be the assistant instructor in that particular dojang. Can everbody say "LOSER?">> I had a simillar experience when I joined a new kwoon/dojo. It was a Kajukembo system and I was required to tie on a white belt/10th kyu. At about the second week we were preparing for a school tournement and I was sparring with a green belt which I believe was about 3rd kyu. Needless to say he got too big for his britches and started to show boat in front of the whole class. I caught him with a round house to the midsection and a reverse spinning sweep to the heel. He was very embarrased about getting whupped on by a "white belt". After class I told him of my experience before joining the school and related there were more people like me out there who like to cross-train. I think he was much more cautious the next time he sparred a lowly white belt. Jon David Payne ------------------------------ From: ZCOMBATMA@aol.com Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:09:44 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Letting higher ranks put on a lower belt to compete OK Lets look at this. If you are not a tournament/sport/competition type of school and lets say one of your students wants to go to one and spar, and he is a blue belt with no tournament exp. Should you as that persons instructor let that student go in as a blue belt when you know that all of the other blue belts has been in many tournaments. Would this be like throwing that student into a den of wolfs. ------------------------------ From: "Emil J. Fisk" Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 12:01:52 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: using corners/sides I'd still like to hear more ideas about using corners and sides to your advantage in tournament sparring. I would like to thank Mark, Ray, and Daniel to start with, and I will use your ideas in class. Now I've got some different ways of teaching the sparring classes, some new things I can tell them, as well as recording the students in class to see what they're doing. As for positive reinforcement and their attitudes in training, I'm not sure how much of an issue that is. I do see that they need to be mentally prepared for the tournament and know that winning or losing is not what I care about, but how well they perform and that they give me their best. But they don't seem to be thinking once they go into the ring. What I see as the main problem is that although I was teaching them when they were only 7th or 6th gup, they are now blackbelts (1st dan). As soon as they got their dan ranks last year, they suddenly thought that they were experts in the arts and knew everything that I did. I know that I can still learn from my students, as long as they have something well-thought out and intelligent to say, but I'm not hearing anything yet. So far, most recommendations I give are just ignored. I tell our instructor about it, and he'll start talking to them, but then they'll ignore him as well after a while. I guess it's people like this that just become stagnant in their training. Although they keep on training, they don't think they can learn anything new, and that's their first problem. I've got a lot to teach them, and my instructor has got a lot to teach me, and even after being a dan rank for 6 years, I still consider myself a student first. My junior blackbelts, however, already think they know everything, and are capable of doing everything. They don't seem to listen to logic either as I've tried that approach thousands of times within the past 10 months, so what I need now is a way to put them in their place. Make them realize exactly how little they know and how far they have to go. So their main problem is that they're not using their brains. They're not thinking. Even worse, they're not even reacting. They're just doing, and it's not working. Sincerely, Emil ------------------------------ From: Tkdtiger@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:09:55 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Chiun For those that don't have a clue on this thread, there is a action adventure series called "The Destroyer" written by Warren Murphy and Richard Sapir. (allthough at some point Sapir stopped and just Murphy's name was on them)>>> S Sapir died - and Murphy continued and now a "committee" writes them and they are not as good as the old ones - must be written by "pale pieces of pig ears". Interesting note - murphy co-wrote Lethal Weapon II ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #513 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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