From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #558 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 8 Nov 1999 Vol 06 : Num 558 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Teaching the_dojang: Kwans/ Moo Duk Kwan the_dojang: Re: "Topic for Discussion" the_dojang: Happy B-Day to the MDK the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #546 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #555 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dbuehrer@carl.org Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 11:22:33 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Teaching \ From: "Silke Schulz" \ \ Unfortunately, many martial artists are taught \ their martial art, but not how to teach. We were all taught how to punch, \ how to perform a front stance, but how many of us were taught by our \ instructors that there people learn three different ways and that each of us \ has one predominant method of learning we prefer, etc.? And what would those three different ways be? :) - -David Buehrer 6th Gup, Hapkido http://home.att.net/~Graht/Hapkido/Hapkido.htm - -- "Take the time to laugh, it's the music of the soul." ------------------------------ From: "Dennis McHenry" Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:51:48 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Kwans/ Moo Duk Kwan Clifford Vaught wrote: <> From my (limited) understanding: (I wasn't there...) The Moo Duk Kwan under Hwang Kee had about 70% of the practitioners in Korea and had already begun to organize several of the Kwans under the Korea Soo Bahk Do Association. Out of the 21 seats on the board of the new organization, the Moo Duk Kwan was only offered 3. So of all the major Kwans at the time, Hwang Kee was the only one to refuse. He also wanted to keep using the current name of Soo Bahk Do for Korean arts as found in the Moo Yi Do Bo Tong Ji. Do to the pressures the government and General Choi put on them, a major split happened in the Moo Duk Kwan where many on the high ranking masters and students were basically forced to change over to Taekwondo. Others just felt Hwang had an attitude and wanted to join with the rest of the kwans. Hwang Kee and a few others kept fighting it and he was thrown into prison and his organization outlawed. He did fight the government and eventually won, but had restrictions placed on him. So the Moo Duk Kwan still used the existing name for Korean Karate (Tang Soo Do) and kept the same form set (Pyung-ahn hyung). Not being affiliated with the Korean Taekwondo association, the Moo Duk Kwan never dropped their kwan name or adopted the new form sets (Palgue or Taeguek). Eventually, GM Hwang did start calling his art Soo Bahk Do, which most still think of as synonymous with Tang Soo Do. Soo Bahk Do has added some additional form sets over the years, such as the Chil-song and Yuk-ro sets. I actually started my MA career in a Taekwondo Moo Duk Kwan dojang, where we did both the Pyung-ahn and Palgue form sets. I am not personally affiliated with the US Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan Federation or Hwang Kee's organization. I don't speak for them. Hope this helps. Later, Mac ------------------------------ From: "Stratton, Sam" Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:45:27 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: "Topic for Discussion" TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION (foot position while kicking): If I would have been on the ball of my foot for a round kick I would not be in my current situation,( torn up knee). Kicking on a flat foot is dangerous, and can produce massive ligament tears as well as destruction of cartilaginous tissues.Using the ball of the foot to kick on makes sense in that the foot pivots easier if the contact surface area is kept to a minimum. This can be taken too far though, pivoting on the heel is much easier but very ineffective, balance and control are lost due to the locking of the knee while pivoting on the heel. If you work out multiple times per week and find that by the end of the week you are sore and tired be extremely careful! When technique suffers due to fatigue so will the rest of the body. This appies even more to the experienced martial artist who is used to more powerful kicks, delivering power without proper technique can do more than just lay you up for the weekend. Moral of the story: Perform your kicks while paying attention to the stresses being applied to the body. this will maximize impact while minimizing the potential for damage to yourself. Thanx Sam Stratton 1st Dan WTF ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:52:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Happy B-Day to the MDK On Tuesday, November 9, the Moo Duk Kwan is 54 years old. Happy birthday! Ray Terry rterry@best.com ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:32:01 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #546 In a message dated 11/1/99 2:59:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > < I have attended many USTU events and not all competitors adhere to the > Tenets...it is rather disgraceful to see unsportsman-like conduct as well as > lack of respect for other Martial Artists...they may have the skills and the > stamina but lack in courtesy, integrity, and self control. Unfortunately, > it happens leaving some competitors ill-served. >> > > i have to agree with you on that. seems that there is a lot of behaviour > which defies the tenets taught in tkd. there's also a lot of negative match > management, of which i am not a fan. it's just not an honourable fight. > > melinda > People are people regardless of their brand of martial art. I defy you to show me a competitive environment where every person present embodies high cultural ideals and impeccable conduct is displayed across the board. SESilz ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:43:02 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #555 In a message dated 11/6/99 6:46:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > for a > grossly illegal act (know the prison definition of 'short eyes'?)... No. Have not spent enough time behind bars, I guess. Do tell? SESilz ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:00:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #558 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! 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