From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #579 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 2 Dec 1999 Vol 06 : Num 579 In this issue: the_dojang: Korean characters the_dojang: The practicallity of the Taeguks the_dojang: My new website the_dojang: Underwater Self Defense - Last call for RSVP the_dojang: Black Belt Test the_dojang: Mudo the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~710 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Emil J. Fisk" Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 12:36:41 +0800 Subject: the_dojang: Korean characters Hi, I was wondering if anybody could send me what 'hoshinsul' would look like in hangul? I'd also like to know what the literal translation of that term would be. I looked up one of my English-Korean guidebooks, and it listed 'self-defense' as 'chawi'. Sincerely, Emil Fisk ------------------------------ From: Andrew Pratt Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 15:21:14 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: The practicallity of the Taeguks Dear Emil and Anders, [struggle into asbestos underwear] I too have wondered at the practicality of the Taeguks. My understanding is that Karate (and Chinese?) patterns are practical and well thought-out with many possibilities for the development of techniques within them. When I was last at home I joined some private taichi lessons. Also in the hall was a retired 5th dan going through the patterns working out the original applications as 2-person combinations.. Him and his friend were finding some really interesting combinations. It looked very impressive and bone crunching. They were practising with controlled force and focused direction. The instructor told me that if he practised that way in a dojo he would be asked to leave the mat! However, I could never imagine doing this with the Taeguks. There seems to be no depth to them. I can not recall ever practising a combination which could be said to have come out of the Taeguks and I can not really remember any of the moves in the Taeguks being explained *as a practical technique*. Moreover, even in the Kukkiwon manuals there is only one application from each pattern demonstration and they don't often look very practical. These are the only patterns I know so I have to try and find applications from them, but it is not very easy. Yours, Andrew >> Sometimes I think that the steps in the poomse don't quite follow a logical order if you imagined one attacker in front of you and the sequences in which you strike him. I vote for more practical poomse! OK, to TKD's defense, I do see a lot of practical moves in various poomse spread out a bit here and there. It's just the method of application that needs to be changed slightly. That, and they're always a good tool to focus on your basics. And may I ask if you're still studying TKD in ROK, and under whom you're studying? Chances are extremely slim that I'll know since I was only there for a year. << >> From: Anders Torvill Bjorvand Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:11:53 +0100 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Chang Hun heritage? s far as I know, they are brand new. The Pyong ahns are parallell to the pinan katas, and the palgwes have a heritage from these. However, both the tae geuks and the chang hun are fairly independent. When it comes to being different, I think chang hun "wins". << ------------------------------ From: JEREMYT@ATFI.COM (JeremyT) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:50:42 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: My new website I have a website (a very rough drafted website) up and running. You can get to it by http://on.to/martialarts (no .com). Please let me know what you think (and be nice as I am very fragile. 8?) ). Also, let me know of ways to improve it (and a step by step process in doing so would be great.) Thanks. Jeremy MACS ------------------------------ From: TaoArt@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:35:29 EST Subject: the_dojang: Underwater Self Defense - Last call for RSVP If you or a member of your department or school/club will be attending the Underwater Self Defense course on Monday, December 6th at 8PM at the Waltham Athletic Club, please send a response via email or call (781) 271-1491 before Saturday, December 4th so that we may assemble a visitor list. If you do not rsvp, you may be turned away at the door. Additional Notes: The $10 Facility Fee is waived for Police and Fire/Rescue Personnel. You might want to bring goggles for the practice. Towels are available for an additional $2. Men should bring athletic cups. Wear durable clothing (like jeans and t-shirt). Bring an extra set of dry clothes. You might want to bring a "Wet bag" to tote your wet clothes home in. Course begins at 8PM... you can arrive as early as 7PM. This event will be covered by Boston's Channel 7 News with both surface and underwater video footage. As well, the Boston Sports Journal will be attending. You may be approached for an interview. Directions: I-95/128 Southbound: Take a right onto exit 27A (Totten Pond Road). The offramp places you on Tottem Pond Road which you will follow to the end (1.3 miles). At the end take a right onto Lexington Street. Immediately bear left at the fork, staying on Lexington Street. Go through one set of lights. The Waltham Athletic Club is roughly 100 yards past the lights on the left hand side. If you come to Blockbuster Video, you have gone too far. I-95/128 Northbound : Take a left onto exit 27A (Totten Pond Road).The offramp places you on Tottem Pond Road which you will follow to the end (1.3 miles). At the end take a right onto Lexington Street. Immediately bear left at the fork, staying on Lexington Street. Go through one set of lights. The Waltham Athletic Club is roughly 100 yards past the lights on the left hand side. If you come to Blockbuster Video, you have gone too far. Press Release: Cooperative Learning Exchange: Underwater Self Defense and Safety On Monday, December 6th, Guard Up, Inc. and the Waltham Athletic Club in Waltham, MA will be hosting a "Cooperative Learning Exchange" with specialists from different communities. The subject of this gathering will be Underwater Self Defense and Safety. An open invite is available to any martial artists and self defense practitioners who specialize in grappling and control techniques. As well, we welcome any police, coast guard, lifeguards and scuba instructors who would be interested in teaching/learning about this subject. We will be meeting at the Waltham Athletic Club at 8:00PM on Monday, December 6th. We will be practicing techniques in the pool WHILE wearing street clothes, so bring an extra set of dry clothes for after. There is a $10 facility fee for use of the pool and showers/locker rooms. Please keep in mind: The purpose of this meeting is to exchange and develop ideas regarding self defense in an underwater environment. The term "self defense" is in regards to maintaining your own safety when dealing with someone who is inadvertantly (as in rescue scenario) or purposefully (as in assault) trying to drown you. This is NOT a competitive or "free for all" course. There will be a high priority placed upon safety for participants. Due to the risky nature of this environment, any actions that are not in keeping with safety precautions will result in expulsion from the class. This course will be documented with underwater video. This is a great opportunity to meet many of the area's experts and be a part of developing a program that could save lives. Bring your brain but leave your ego at the door. For more information, or to register for participation, call Guard Up, Inc. at (781) 271-1491 or email guardup@guardup.com. ------------------------------ From: "Aaron Harmon" Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:14:43 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Black Belt Test Hello all, I passed my Black Belt test last night. I will be awarded the belt this Saturday. Kinda Cool. Thanks everyone for all of the support and adive you all gave me on this. You folks are great. Aaron Harmon There is pleasure And there is bliss. Forgo the first to possess the second. -Dhammapada ------------------------------ From: HKDTodd@aol.com Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:22:11 EST Subject: the_dojang: Mudo The Chinese characters for Mudo are broken down as such. Mu consists of guh and ji. Guh means spear, attack, disturbance and aggresion, ji means to stop. The original meaning of mu was to stop war or disturbance. The Chinese characters for Do are su and ji. Su means face, head, mind, thoughts and ideas. Ji means walking, behaving, and bodily practice. This is a very abreviated version from TKD Times, April 1994. Todd ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 08:51:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #579 ******************************** Support the USTU by joining today! US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com ===================================================================== To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in pub/the_dojang/digests. 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