From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #596 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 12 Dec 1999 Vol 06 : Num 596 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Billy Jack the_dojang: discusions of tkd.net the_dojang: Contributing cards to Grandmaster JI Re: the_dojang: weapons training question the_dojang: Kajukenbo Aloha Seminar the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Marker Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:04:35 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Billy Jack >I just watched part of Billy Jack a few days ago on cable. It is scheduled >again on 'Encore Action' this coming Monday and Tuesday. Trial of will >possibly follow in a week or so. Don't forget he plays Dr. Claw in "Kentucky Fried Movie!!!!:) "We are building a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude. We forge our traditions in the spirit of our ancestors. You honor us with your presence" If I ever run a studio, I may make them recite that:) I still get a laugh when he wheel kicks, misses and breaks a post "$hit!" :) ------------------------------ From: d g Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:28:44 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: discusions of tkd.net I have read all the posts talking obout "our friend" from tkd.net. Quite frankly I would rather not stoop down to his level. He once said some of my things I had done was childish. He was right, it was. But what he is doing is childish as well. I suggest forgetting him and moving on to better discussions. He will do what he wants because he believes he is always right. No-one will do anything to put a stop to it and eventionally his infamey will spead. We do not need to do his dirty work. He does well on his own. We have a freedom of choice and a freedom of speech in America. I will not let anyone tell me what I cannot do or where I cannot post. He has a problem with Ray, let him solve it. I wish it was in a more respectful manner but he choses this way and will not listen to anyone. So let us stop talking about him and go on to martial arts discussion. Donna ------------------------------ From: "Ron Bain" Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:24:17 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Contributing Ok...with over 700+ subscribers we should all be contributing or asking on a more frequent basis. Myself included. So I'll take the initiative and look forward to your opinions on the following topic. First, for all the WTF/KKW practitioners. How many of you have experimented with the WTF style of sparring? I have some serious reservations about consistently sparring with a no hands emphasis, and have come up with the following two types of sparring to emphasise using more hand techniques while practicing Olympic type sparring. 1) Same as WTF sparring, but giving more points for scoring punches (& high kicks). eg- Any Body kick: 1 point Any Head kick: 2 points (optional if you discourage head kicks) Any Punch to Mid Mid Section: 3 points (2 points if you omit head kicks) Observation: You'll see MORE Cover Punching :-) 2) Combination of WTF sparring & Open sparring. Use WTF rules but add no contact head punches. (non stop continuous sparring) Any kick: 1 point Any punch: 2 points Observation: You'll see LESS Lunging Backfists. :-) If I am not mistake, ITF (or some of it's off-shoots) may be using (experimenting?) with a variation of #2. Any ITFers out there? Any comments, suggestions, experiences with the above would be much appreciated, not only by TKD, but by practitioners of other styles as well. For all you people who spar non contact...have you experimented with full contact sparring? If so, what do you do? Looking forward to your comments, Ron "I've also been kicked off of TKD-Net" Bain <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Ron Bain's Taekwondo Hapkido Web Guide http://www.cyberbeach.net/~bainr/martial.htm <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:31:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: cards to Grandmaster JI Remember our earlier comments about Grandmaster JI Han-jae and his ill mother. He will probably be landing in Seoul shortly. It would be great if y'all could take the time to quickly send him a small Christmas card at the address kindly provided to us by Vic Cushing: Grandmaster JI, Han-Jae 101-108 Ho Hongje Joon Ang Heights Apt #342 Hongje Dong Seo Dae Moon Ku Seoul, Korea From the USA, $0.60 postage should get a small card there. It just might help his spirits knowing that we care about him this holiday season. Ray Terry remember the reason for the season... ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:59:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: the_dojang: weapons training question > My question (finally!) is this, at what point do you receive weapons training > in your school and what weapons are taught? I personally haven't seen too much in the way of serious weapons training in TKD / HKD schools. Perhaps something like KSW is different, but IMHO you don't learn a weapon working with it for a ten mins each class or even for an entire class every other week. You learn it by working with it in each and every class, for the entire class, for a year or three. Just like groundfighting, you learn it by rolling on the mat for several hours a week, every week for a couple years. Or perhaps 10 hours a day, day after day for several weeks. We do a little kumdo and play with chuks in our TKD dojang, but I personally don't think the students 'learn' the weapon. Of course they know it better than if they had never picked it up in the first place, so perhaps I'm just expecting too much... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:12:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Kajukenbo Aloha Seminar Forwarding. Ray - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Forwarded message: From: "Bruce Millsap" Subject: Kajukenbo Aloha Seminar Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:51:47 PST Hello All! Just wanted to invite you to the first annual Kajukenbo Self-defense Institute Seminar. The seminar will be hosted by Sigung Greg Harper with a special guest appearance by Kajukenbo Founder Sijo Adrianno Emperado. The seminar will be held in Visalia California on the 5th and 6th of February, 2000. The first day will consist of Filipino Martial Arts with an emphasis on knife work and sinawali. The second day will be Ground grappling and ground striking. Yours truly will be teaching both segments and I invite all to come and enjoy the arts. For more information contact Sigung Greg Harper at KSDIGUARD@aol.com Thanks and hope to see you there!!!!! Bruce ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:06:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #596 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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