From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #607 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 18 Dec 1999 Vol 06 : Num 607 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #604 the_dojang: Black Belt Significance the_dojang: Re: black belt significance the_dojang: TKD Times, 1/2000 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~725 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:39:55 PST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #604 Ray said: >On the topic of 1 step sparring, now about 3 step sparring? That was >typically where folks started before attempting 1 step sparring, but >I'm >seeing less and less of it these days. The Grandmaster I'm >affiliated >with is thinking of starting to employ it again given its >'traditional' >nature. > >Others? My instructor actually has the 10th gups start out by three stepping by themselves. They do the attacking and then the defending portions. At 9th gup they progress to doing 3-stepping with a partner. I have noticed that this actually helps the students learn each part then when they are paired with a partner there's less confusion. 2-step sparring is introduced at 6th gup level. The attacker attacks with a hand technique and a foot technique that the other student defends against. The attacks are pre-designated but must be one hand and one foot technique. This sparring is great to use to work on distance. We start 1-step sparring at 4th gup and the emphasis is one counterattacking right after the attack. Techniques in 1-stepping (and in 2- and 3-stepping) should be done realistically (with power and speed) and counterattacks should be limited in number (Usually 1-4 techniques. I tend to do 1-3. How long is he just going to stand there, after all?). We also do semi-free sparring where the partners can do any techniques they wish but only for a limited number of attacks. Around 3rd dan we introduce foot sparring which is kind of like prearranged but limited to kicks for attacks and blocks. I think step-sparring is a great tool to teach students how to judge distance, timing, etc. People who pooh-pooh it as 'unrealistic' usually replace it with some sort of combination drill which is actually close to semi-free sparring (it seems to me). You might suggest that your master reincorporate it both for the 'traditional' value as well as for the training value. > >Does anyone know? Does Japanese Karate-do have 3-step and 1-step >sparring >exercises? It's my understanding that at least Shotokan karate does step-sparring. They have 5-, 3-, and 1-step sparring and it sems very similar to that found in TKD 3-stepping and 1-stepping (although I don't think there is any mixture of hand and foot like in 2-stepping). As an aside, Chinese styles don't have step sparring (at least the ones I've seen) but they do have two person forms where each move is choreographed. They are really cool, especially if done with speed and power. Taekwon, Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Chuck Sears" Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 16:16:19 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Black Belt Significance > > From: "tink" > Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 23:15:57 -0000 > Subject: the_dojang: Black Belt Significance > > Well...her is my humble opinion on the significance of the Black Belt: For > what is worth: ...snip... > By the time I got my 2nd Dan I was feeling less than my rank. By 3rd Dan I > really felt like I was lacking as I compared my abilities and my knowledge > to equal and lesser ranks. I waited 12 years to test for my 4th Dan. Why > did I wait so long? I didn't feel ready or feel like I was 4th Dan > material. By the time I tested, I felt ready and am trying to live up to > the rank, though I know I don't perform some techniques as well as others, > but make up for it in the rest of the techniques. The same goes for my > knowledge of history and instructing. There are those who are better, but > there are those who are worse. ...snip... I always tell my students: You don't earn rank - rank earns you. When you are ready to be a Fill-in-the-color Belt, you'll be one. Your knowledge and skill levels will have advanced to the point where you are ready for a new challenge. And I tell them that First Degree Black Belt is a great goal to have, but it is quite similar to setting the goal of graduation from high school. Once you do it, it's time to set new goals and go on to actually learning things rather than just memorizing basics. ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:49:12 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: black belt significance In a message dated 12/17/99 11:59:57 AM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << but not continuing to receive the Dan Rank makes the training useless as they have achieved nothing. You don't start to learn until you become a Black Belt, then the training begins. >> i disagree. a student is learning from day one. i would not say that gup rank training is useless. that certainly invalidates the efforts of many individuals. the training begins from day one in the dojang...and continues until the day you die. rank has nothing to do with it. melinda ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:13:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: TKD Times, 1/2000 FYI, The January 2000 issue of TKD Times has a couple of interesting articles/interviews. One with NAM Tae-hi and one with Gen. CHOI Hong-hi. Worth reading. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 12:00:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #607 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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