From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #615 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 23 Dec 1999 Vol 06 : Num 615 In this issue: the_dojang: Knife and Counter Knife Training Seminar [none] the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #614 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #614, testing the_dojang: Black belt certification the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~735 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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Course topics include: *Overview of deadly force limits *Tueller and Magliato drills *Unconventional carry and draw drills *Knife grips and transitions *Knife retention drills *Drills against multiple attackers *Drills against grapplers *Silent knife opening drills *Bare Hand skills vs. the Knife *Exploiting the action-reaction gap *Knife as handgun retention tool *Knife as handgun disarming tool *Knife vs. Knife fighting drills and much more. This course is taught by SIG Arms Academy trainer Michael deBethencourt. Mr. deBethencourt has been a martial arts practitioner for 23 years and a police defense tactics instructor for 13 years. He has been a full time police Knife and Counter Knife Specialist since 1990 and has trained police officers and martial artists from around the world. This program was developed for armed defense when a firearm is unavailable/inaccessible or as a light weight, backup weapon to a handgun. The techniques emphasize the use of any thumb opening folder knife. This course requires no prior self defense training. However, due to the nature of this seminar, you MUST have a copy of one of the following to participate: 1) a current CCW 2) A current FID 3) A letter of reference from an Attorney 4) A letter of reference from Guard Up, Inc. Absolutely no unscreened students are permitted. All course graduates may repeat this course without cost. The cost of the seminar is $125.00 ($100 for LEOs) and it will be held at the Waltham Athletic Club at 249 Lexington Street in Waltham, MA. To register, send a copy of your ID or letter and a check payable to: Guard Up, Inc. 59 Dunster Road Bedford, MA 01730 There WILL be a cap on the number of participants to insure quality insctruction. Please reserve your place ASAP by calling Guard Up, Inc. at (781) 271-1491 or email GuardUp@GuardUp.com. For directions to the Guard Up facility at the Waltham Athletic Club, visit our website: http://www.guardup.com ------------------------------ From: dbuehrer@carl.org Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:33:01 -0700 Subject: [none] >From: ChunjiDo@aol.com >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:15:08 EST >Subject: the_dojang: Re: gup vs. bb > >In a message dated 12/21/99 9:37:30 AM Central Standard Time, >the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > >" No training is useless if it leads to and is applied to further training >and advancement." > >i agree. my question is, does that advancement have to be set in a typical >dojang with a typical master with typical contracts, etc? or can the dojang >be life? I thought Life was the Dojang.. :) Seriously, advancement is advancement. Someone else mentioned that before they started studying martial arts they had problems talking in front of groups, but now it's second nature. They took the lessons learned from MA and applied them broadly. Any advancement, be it physical, mental, or spiritual, will reflect in all areas of your life, IMHO. To Life, - -David Buehrer 6th Gup, Hapkido http://www.users.uswest.net/~abaker3 - -- "The light is reached not by turning back from the darkness, but by going through it." ------------------------------ From: Yan =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9riard?= Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:26:05 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #614 > > From: ChunjiDo@aol.com > Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:15:08 EST > Subject: the_dojang: Re: gup vs. bb > > In a message dated 12/21/99 9:37:30 AM Central Standard Time, > the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > > " No training is useless if it leads to and is applied to further training > and advancement." > > > i agree. my question is, does that advancement have to be set in a typical > dojang with a typical master with typical contracts, etc? or can the dojang > be life? > > melinda Don't teach them about the martial arts, teach them about life through the Martial art. This way even if you lose some along the way you'll be sure that the things they did learn, may it be respect, confidence, physical prowess, etc. will stay with them forever. This is what I think, don't blame me for it. At least I think and this a start for me. Yan Périard ------------------------------ From: Mike_Devich@selinc.com Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:05:44 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #614, testing Please excuse any mistakes as this is my first time posting to any group. Reading the articles on testing and taking tests has brought back many memories for myself. First being that I failed my blue belt test 3 times: I am now a black belt w/14 years of learning and 5 years of instructing. I did not have any problems physically, but did not like to work on poomse. I couldn't, did not want to, remember a form to save my life. I thought that they were a complete waste of time, thus serving no purpose. Up to the test, many of the things in my life came fairly easy, school, sports, etc. So I figured that I was a shoe in to past the test. When I found out, actually I knew during the testing, that I failed the test I was mad, upset, and ready to quit. I failed myself and my instructor. But, I could not quit, even after I failed the next two times. My home life sucked, dad an alcoholic and brother has Muscular Dystrophy and is in a wheel chair. At the dojang though I knew that I was somebody and was respected for who I was, which surprised me even after failing my test. I am not looking for sympathy, just pointing out that by my instructor and fellow class mates having higher expectations for myself than I did, made me realize that I could do more, and that I was not everything. Basically a humbling experience. I know that I really earned that blue belt and it was the hardest thing that I have ever done. The sense of accomplishment after passing though was fantastic, nobody could take it away. Tae Kwon Do has, I believe, been the determining factor in my success and not ending up in jail. If my instructor would have not failed me, I may have quit Tae Kwon Do: no challenge. Every person has a turning ponit, probably several, that are not immediately seen. I believe that this was a very important turning point for me. I hope that this may help some with having to fail a tester or failing a test yourself. It is not a failure if you continue on and try to overcome, but if you quit than that is the failure. Mike ------------------------------ From: TkdBPerry@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 00:02:05 EST Subject: the_dojang: Black belt certification If we were to mold the image of a perfect child. I suppose we would place this child in a manger surrounded by wise men and under the loving care of a Mom and dad hand picked by our father in heaven. The child would grow up and give us profound teachings and lead the world to love and accept one another for who we really are, children of God! We would call him Master and lord of our lives and seek out like individuals to join with us in a ministry to pass on his teachings. Then each year we would celebrate his birthday and call it Christmas. If time were likened to darkness and how representative we were to his teachings a candle light would shine. In the space of time a bright light would shine to show the life and teachings of Jesus. For most of us only a small spark or glimmer might erupt to mark our passing in time. Consequently, even if we attain the rank of Master it is nothing. We still know and serve only one master of our lives. Do we receive rank because of our ability to perform a prescribed list of skills? It does not seem to be true. If it were true we would without fail give each Olympic gold medal winner a rank certificate too. So, then what is the criteria. Simply, a recommendation by a master of the art form. Are there strict requirements? Most often I believe most masters require a strong devotion to the artform and a friendly attitude towards others as being very important. Followed by how a person carries his/her self and shows discipline in their relationship to their family, and community. A very strict knowledge of basic and required skills of each level. These skills are to be mastered by 3rd Degree level for WTF black belts. Fourth dan is the beginning of stricter responsibility of upholding and administrating the goals of the organization. The number one responsibility being the promoting of other black belts who will keep the art form strong. Only, those black belts who represent the highest standards and accept leadership roles are chosen in hopes of sustaining an organization with lasting vitality. How is it generally handled in as much a person may have physical challenges? As an Olympic sport this is very extensively covered. Under USOC bylaws we cannot block a person (by any means including certification) from participating as an athlete, coach, trainer, manager, or official from participating in Olympic events. Furthermore we will discriminate in this participation by age, gender or race. We also have ever-growing legislation and court decisions in accommodating persons of any challenges. For the most part you are advised to use your textbooks such as the latest addition from the Kukkiwon for Taekwondo. Conclusion: Participate in as many events WTF has to offer as you can. Compliment your instructor and other mentors. But, also in a world full of followers, dare to be a leader. Bob ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:23:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #615 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! 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