From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #616 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 24 Dec 1999 Vol 06 : Num 616 In this issue: the_dojang: ITC at an ITF Seminar the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #615 the_dojang: Re: Black belt the_dojang: HoHoHo ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~735 members strong! Copyright 1994-99: Ray Terry, California Taekwondo, Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:56:19 PST Subject: the_dojang: ITC at an ITF Seminar I said: >>I found it very interesting that in one of the pictures in the >>article >>the ITC President (can't remember his name off hand) was >>shown attending >>a recent seminar by the General. Any of you ITC'ers >>know about this? Silke wrote: >Unfortunately, I've looked through the entire issue and cannot find a >picture of Grandmaster Chang Jin Kang anywhere. Perhaps you can >reference >a page number for me? If Grandmaster Kang did attend such a >seminar, >however, it would not be surprising, since we do practice >the Chang Han >Ryu (ITF) forms in the ITC. Then, beginning with 1st >Dan, we also practice >Kukkiwon forms (Taeguk? - forgive me, I am >unsure as to the family name of >that set of forms...) Grandmaster >Kang is always seeking to perfect his >knowledge of the ITF forms, as >well as his associations with many of the >Grandmasters in the Korean >arts. Well, I checked the article again and on page 55 there is a series of four pictures from a seminar the General gave. In the second and third pictures down there is a gentleman who bears a stricking resemblance to GM Chang Jin Kang (as far as I can tell). The first picture he is in he is partially obscurred by the general, but in the second picture (the third from the top) he is taking notes directly to the left of Gen. Choi, who is performing a rising block. The pictures are small but I am fairly sure that's him. Frankly I think it's great that he attended a seminar with the General. Most Koreans I have met who practice the Chang Hun tuls still do them the way they were done in the 70s even though there have been some changes. Hope this helps. Taekwon, Chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Chuck Sears Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:23:27 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #615 > > From: Yan =?iso-8859-1?Q?P=E9riard?= > Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:26:05 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V6 #614 > > ...snip... > > Don't teach them about the martial arts, teach them about life through the Martial > art. > > This way even if you lose some along the way you'll be sure that the things they did > learn, may it be respect, confidence, > physical prowess, etc. will stay with them forever. > > This is what I think, don't blame me for it. At least I think and this a start for me. > > And it's a very good one. I had the pleasure once of hearing Sr. Master Robert Allemeir talking about martial arts philosophy and he said something that stuck with me: "We don't just teach blocks, kicks and punches. We teach life skills and we use Taekwondo as the teaching medium." Now I know that Master Allemeir would be overjoyed to find out that he was successful in teaching me anything , but what he said is true. A martial arts school is one of the very, very few places left where the basic values of courtesy, respect, discipline and responsibility are taught. When you get out on the floor, you and you alone are responsible for your actions. The instructor may show you the way to do something, but you are the one who has to do it, and do it correctly. When you get out on the floor for a testing, your performance will indicate immediately whether you have applied yourself or whether you have been goofing off. Actually, whether or not you are on the floor is a good indicator. I won't give permission to test to students that have not put forth their best efforts, and in 9 years as a certified instructor, I have never had to deny a student more than once. That one time is a wake-up call and it is much better than letting the student go out on the floor and fail. Of course, there are still the occasional no-changes. Sometimes, you just have a bad day and you can't even *buy* a board break, for example. And the students learn how to cope with those occasions and by doing so, learn how to cope with life's setbacks as well. Kids don't get that kind of training in schools any more. If they go to school, do the minimum necessary (if even that much) and don't make trouble, they will be promoted. What are we teaching them? Do enough to get by. Don't make waves and god forbid you should put forth an effort on anything. ------------------------------ From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:53:19 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Black belt My instructor told this story about a student earning his black belt and what it meant to his student, and to him: Several years ago a student of mine who teaches Hapkido, So he says left our Dojang at 1st dan he had all the answers and all the secrets of what it took to teach and how to teach he purchased the tapes, We had a disagreement I felt he hadn't the experience or the skill to teach but he went on his own I wished him luck and off he went. Several years ago a student of his joined our class he was frustrated after being a red belt for so long he thought he should be eligible to test for Black Belt 8 years is a long time for anyone to make the journey, We invited him to join our class as if he were a long lost son the day came for his Black Belt test he thought he was ready, I knew otherwise out of 17 knife attacks he was stabbed 12 times which is unacceptable, He was sucking wind like there was no tomorrow the air was free, His joint locks were weak and sloppy like he had learned from some one that no longer was sure of the technique. Half way through the test I stopped it to save him further embarrassment he was red eyed as his world had come to an end. I took all the Black Belt judges aside an we discussed his mistakes, Then the dreaded moment where I explained what a Black belt means and how I do not expect him to walk on water or be able to do anything the others in front of him did not do or any of the 28 Black Belts I have promoted in my 25 years as A Hapkido instructor. It would be an injustice to him and them, And with that belt around his waist goes my name and reputation and he did not fail, he learned what it takes and what he needed to excel and I explained as a Master I had failed because his instructor had failed him. I never expected to see him again so I invited him to my Home for Dinner with several of my senior students we talked and bonded. One of the Black belts took him under his wing and they trained another 5 months and Did a retest it was such a test the judges put down there pens and watched as if it were a demonstration he had passed, With tears in his eyes and mine we shook hands ,Bowed and I awarded him his Black Belt, He is now in the Navy, Attending Officer's school with the lessons he learned never give up, Don't quit and aim high. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 07:44:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: HoHoHo It is getting cooler here in sunny San Jose. Only supposed to get up to 65 today, Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas. God bless us, every one... Ray Terry ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V6 #616 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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