From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #10 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 6 Jan 2000 Vol 07 : Num 010 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #9 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #5 the_dojang: Re: Nunchakus the_dojang: Greetings/Apologies/Condolences the_dojang: Experience the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #9 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~745 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pohl, Axel" Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:34:39 MET-1MEST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #9 > From: MissIllona@aol.com > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:22:40 EST > Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #7 > > In a message dated 1/5/00 7:24:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, > the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > > << I have created 1 Kata that "feels right" > for me. I have incorporated stances/kicks/blocks from my TKD studies. I > would > be happy to put ths Kata down on a website with photos and explanations if > anyone > had any interest in it. >> I`m very interested in your kata and would be pleased if could make it available on net. I know a rarely known poomse from Korea by GM Rak-Sun Pyo. It`s a fighting (kicking poomse) called Kyorugi taeguk. > > > > Ray wrote: > > On the topic of videos, how many of your schools have different videos > > for the new material to be learned at each belt level? i.e., does your > > instructor have a set of videos, perhaps one per belt level, that shows the > > poomse, kicks, one-steps, hoshinsul, etc that you'll be learning at that > > gup level? > > Our master Rak-Sun Pyo has made a video with the following contents: - -explaining of basic kicks/stances/hand techniques - -showing his expertise on HKD,TKD,Nunchaku - -showing some self-defence techniques - -explaining Taeguk 1-8 and Koryo, Taebek with views from behind/front/slow/fast - -showing some demostration techniques ------------------------------ From: "Pohl, Axel" Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 09:41:09 MET-1MEST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #5 > From: Cecil Washington > Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 07:08:48 -0800 (PST) > Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #4 > > To: "Pohl, Axel" > > If you look at Aikido and Yoga, you may find some > wrist stretches that can help you. I started getting > tendonitis from excessive typing at work. When I > started the Aikido stretches for the wrist, and the > yoga, the symptoms died down. Mind you, I have one > wrist that was broken while I was playing as a kid, > which never healed correctly, and I can still train. > I know a lot of Tkd-practicians having much problems with their knees. Lots of those who got a fantastic kick have damaged their knees a lot. E.g. one of us used to do all these world-famous-breaking-techniques. Flying thru the air kickin 4 boards and much more. (Sorry, what`s that in english -Gelenk? Now his -the connection between foot and legs- is totally damaged. I think hell never practise TKD again. There are also these 540=B0/720=B0spinning kicking and jumping double techniques that make me have some problems wih my back and my knees. ------------------------------ From: CBAUGHN@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:27:14 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Nunchakus Dan Myers wrote: << I have a few Kata I have attained from time to time mostly from Chinese Arts. I have never practiced many of these since they don't seem to appeal to me. I have created 1 Kata that "feels right" for me. I have incorporated stances/kicks/blocks from my TKD studies. I would be happy to put ths Kata down on a website with photos and explanations if anyone had any interest in it. >> Dan, I'd be interested. Let me know if you create the site. Thanks, Sally Baughn cbaughn@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "tink" Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:22:22 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Greetings/Apologies/Condolences Greetings everyone! I trust everyone had a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! I sincerely hope the New Year brings new successes to everyone, whatever they may be. Apology: Sorry I have been away for the past couple of weeks, as I know my absence has caused some distress and pining for my return (I was informed that a camel somewhere in the middle of the Sahara is now in therapy over this...but that's another story). Not to worry: I am back. My computer had a major illness resulting in reformating of my hard drive. Hope none of you have to go through this; it is a very tramatic experience. It's amazing how far you can through a laptop computer and the resulting damage caused to the object or person it hits. Good to be back. Now you get to put up with my non-sequitor ramblings! Condolences: I offer my condolences to the friends and family of the young woman that was brutally attacked. I sincerely hope the perpetrator is quickly apprehended and brought to proper justice. It is truly a tragic event, but from what I have read, she touched the lives of many people with good influences. My sincere condolences. This brings me to a side thought. As I read the posting, two things came to mind. One: I am sure she reacted and responded appropriately to her situation, using whatever defensive knowledge she had. Two: In thinking over the situation, I wonder if it is possible that her attacker was better versed in the martial arts and thereby able to effectively counter anything she may have tried? Just a thought. The One and Only... Tink ------------------------------ From: "tink" Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 06:22:28 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Experience This is an experience I wish to share with everyone as it taught me a very valuable lesson. When I was a tempory Black Belt, I was involved in a situation with a drunk tyring to hit on my friend's girlfriend. Recognizing that he was extremely intoxicated, the lady and I were talking him into backing off and sitting down. Everything was going well until he leaned over and basically fell on me, forcing me to support him from falling down. As I stood him upright, he became violent and started pushing me quite hard. I did not give way as I was still trying to keep him from falling down in his efforts. He eventually put in in what he thought was a head-lock (he was taller than I by about 4 to 6 inches) and I gently and easilly slipped out of it with him on his hands and knees and me directly behind him, controlling his movements. This was all going quite well and I was about to let him go so my friends and I could leave. Then two of his friends showed up and jumped my before i could get fully to my feet. They pushed me against the side of the building and proceeded to throw what they called punches to my body. I wasn't being injured in the least, so I was simply trying to work my way out from between them to talk to them face on. Dumb idea! A luck punch struck me in the eye. So now I am trying to fix my contact lense while these two guys continue to throw their idea of punches to my body. I wasn't paying attention to them as I was more concerned about my contact lense. I had decided at this point, since I wasn't being injured with the exception of the one punch to the eye, not to use my training, but to try and difuse the situation. Another dumb idea!! My friend jumped in and was dealing with the first drunk that started the whole thing. The other two, seeing their friend in trouble left me and jumped my friend. So I immediately went to his aid. One of the three had stopped and stood by the side, he seemed to be fairly sober. My friend was in no immediate danger, so I tried talking to this person, explaining to him that his friend was thoroughly intoxicated and the fight needed to end. He was actually listening and agreeing until the other guy came back and hit me from behind. BAck to being caught between the two getting "punched". To make a long story short, it all ended as the first drunk ended up with his nose broken by my friend, who was not a martial artist, and he was out of the picture. The remaining two left me again and jumped my friend and got him on the ground. As they were punching him, here I was trying to talk them into stopping, like they were really going to listen. So I finally, at seeing my friend on the ground, gave ainside knife hand strike to the neck to one, backing him off, and kicked the other sqaurely in the chest with a front kick. Now the bouncers show up to break it up! Results: My friend had a tuft of hair pulled out from his head, a very small tuft leaving about 1/4 inch cut to his head. He also got his hood dented and his windshield cracked. I had a black eye, nearly swollen shut, and lost my contact lense. The lady was uninjured. THe first drunk had a broken nose and I am sure his body was very sore the next day from hitting the ground a couple of times. The other two, when the alcohol wore off, I am sure were feeling the effects of my knife hand strike and kick. The moral:(I know..you were wondering when I would get to it) The vehicle damage and injuries to my friend and myself were completely unecessary. Had I chosen to apply my martial arts knowledge to the situation, I could have ended the fight before it started. Instead, I chose NOT to use my knowledge and try to difuse the situation with calm and talking. VERY DUMB! NEVER try to reason with a drunk. Once the situation becomes heated...end it. Once you make the decision to not use your martial arts, it becomes very difficult to reverse that decision after the fact. If you choose to use your martial arts, go with it immediately, do not hesitate. Then, use it to the full extent necessary to control the situation and end the conflict. Sorry if this bored anyone. Just thought I would pass it on. The One and Only... Tink ------------------------------ From: "Vaught, Clifford (CLF N6Y2K8)" Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 07:55:59 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #9 The exchange between MissIllona and an unidentified writer that follows interests me. When I was in a Norris system Tang Soo Do school, we had to "make up" our own 1-steps and 3-steps. Of course we got a lot of help and there was some corporate knowledge to pass on from seniors to juniors. But I've not heard of practitioners making up their own forms. Perhaps in the open forms division of a tournament (the competitions with music, flashy uniforms, etc.). My question is should we be creating our own forms when, for the most part, we have probably not exhausted the body of forms in our styles for our level? Maybe I'm really asking 2 things - are there organizations that encourage and grant flexibility to do so? I guess I wonder why, if a martial artist doesn't master what they are supposed to know, why branch out into something else? Obviously there isn't any "harm" in doing do, but would seniors, masters in the arts, find that to be counter productive to learning the required materials? Soo Bahk!! Cliff Vaught - ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:22:40 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #7 In a message dated 1/5/00 7:24:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I have created 1 Kata that "feels right" for me. I have incorporated stances/kicks/blocks from my TKD studies. I would be happy to put ths Kata down on a website with photos and explanations if anyone had any interest in it. >> I am definitely interested in this one! Go for it and keep me posted! We have one kata here but it is the kihon kata put to nunchaku's and we have become bored with it as well. Illona ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:27:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #10 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com ===================================================================== To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in pub/the_dojang/digests. All digest files have the suffix '.txt' Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.