From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #11 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 6 Jan 2000 Vol 07 : Num 011 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #10 the_dojang: Management Software the_dojang: Nunchaku length the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #10 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #10 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #10 the_dojang: Not The Millennium the_dojang: Digest and Tae chi chaun Re: the_dojang: Digest and Tae chi chaun the_dojang: article the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~745 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! Ray Terry, PO Box 110841, Campbell, CA 95011 KMA@MartialArtsResource.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Silke Schulz" Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 12:54:06 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #10 Cliff Vaught wrote: >My question is should we be creating our own forms when, for the most part, we have probably not exhausted the body of forms in our styles for our level? < As we have only one form and three-one steps per belt level, your question as asked doesn't really apply to my situation. I do believe there is, with direction, value to allowing students to create their own forms, even at the white belt level. During the week between testing and rank promotions--what we like to call "Fun Week", I let my adult students create their own forms using their current knowledge and arsenal of techniques. I ask them to imagine an opponent as they are creating this form, and I believe this gives them an opportunity to do some role playing and use the techniques in a way that makes sense to them. I allow the kids to create their own one-steps during this week for the same reason. I've also let the adult students create "partner" forms....or you could call them slowed-down choreographed fight scenes. I find that watching this creative process is fascinating--each student approaches it in a different way and picks his/her favorite techniques that become the base of the form. By observing what techniques aren't used in the form, I think an instructor can find out what the student feels are his weaknesses. Just a thought or two...I'm interested to hear how others will respond. Silke Schulz ------------------------------ From: P69H@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:28:57 EST Subject: the_dojang: Management Software Can anyone tell me of a good and fairly inexpensive management program. the ones I have found on the net are either bad or very costly. thank you in advance Paul Hissa A+ Karate www.apluskarate.com ------------------------------ From: Stan Lim Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 13:59:26 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Nunchaku length Are there general guidelines on how long the nunchaku sticks should be, and how long the chain/rope between them should be? I've heard that ideally, the chain should be the length of the width of your palm, and the sticks should be as long as your wrist to your elbow. Are there companies out there that make custom sized nunchakus? Kamsahamnida. Stan Lim TKD, San Jose, CA ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:25:02 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #10 In a message dated 1/6/00 11:32:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << My question is should we be creating our own forms when, for the most part, we have probably not exhausted the body of forms in our styles for our level? Maybe I'm really asking 2 things - are there organizations that encourage and grant flexibility to do so? I guess I wonder why, if a martial artist doesn't master what they are supposed to know, why branch out into something else? Obviously there isn't any "harm" in doing do, but would seniors, masters in the arts, find that to be counter productive to learning the required materials? >> Hmmmmmmmmmmm ... yes, I could see this ... if I was with one body or organization. I am a rogue ... broke off from my instructor thru personal reasons ... and he wasn't into forms. None of his students study basics or forms. I happen to love them. I apply them to learning alot of things here in my school ... from stances to blocking to punching to kicking to weapons to sparring. I am under an organization that doesn't govern what we teach here. I teach what works ... whether it be TKD or Jujutsu or Ground or Okinawan karate. Kyokushin and TKD are my base styles that everything revolves from. I love them both. And yes, I believe we all have a right to learn what we can ... to help ourselves in becoming safer in this insane world. Illona ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:26:18 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #10 In a message dated 1/6/00 11:32:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Perhaps in the open forms division of a tournament (the competitions with music, flashy uniforms, etc.). >> Sorry ... we don't do tournaments in our school. What we teach here is for our own self betterment ... not to win trophies. We don't mind going to watch others doing it ... but we don't do gymnastics here or forms to music. Illona ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 17:33:13 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #10 In a message dated 1/6/00 11:32:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << When I was in a Norris system Tang Soo Do school, we had to "make up" our own 1-steps and 3-steps. Of course we got a lot of help and there was some corporate knowledge to pass on from seniors to juniors. >> Good for you. We do so here too. When you can understand what the steps mean and how they apply ... then you are one step closing to understanding how your own body works and what moves work best for you. Same with forms. I make up forms to help them understand. We also do traditional forms here so they understand about tradition in martial arts too. And I don't believe anyone is a master of a system. We are all students ... learning and growing each and every day of our karate lives. So to say I should stay and 'master' a form before I can go on to the next one ... nope, I have a short lifetime ... one form will not do it for me ... something in the next one may be the one that saves my life. Some breakdown of it that instills a way for me to train and understand something better. We all train with our own ideas on how it should be ... and that was instilled in us by our instructors we have had thru our lives ... and I guess mine were pretty liberal in their thinking. I have had Americans, Japanese, Korean, and Fillipino ... all pretty open minded individuals. And I like to remain open-minded too. Illona ------------------------------ From: "kadin goldberg" Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:08:41 MST Subject: the_dojang: Not The Millennium Well, I havent posted in awhile but I just read some stuff on here a minute ago and I would just like to say... Sorry mike, this is acutually not the millennium if you think about it. This is the last year of the 1st millennium the next year will be the start of the 2nd millennium because they started counting at year 1... so... They wont start counting the millennium until 2001(or at least they shouldnt have). Happy new year anyway. :) Friend to all, Kadin Goldberg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "kadin goldberg" Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:45:24 MST Subject: the_dojang: Digest and Tae chi chaun Hi everyone, I have a couple questions. #1 Ray I was just wondering... do you have the very first dojang digest posting out maybe even the first 5... I just though it would be cool to have the very first postings. How long has this been on the internet anyway? #2 I found a Tae Chi Chaun class that I might be interested in that is in my town (small town) and I was wondering what any of you think about Tae Chi. Would if be fun for a 15 year old kid? What is Tae Chi made up of and what should I expect the class to be like? Thanx in advace, Kadin Goldberg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:40:45 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: Digest and Tae chi chaun > #1 Ray I was just wondering... do you have the very first dojang digest > posting out maybe even the first 5... I just though it would be cool to have > the very first postings. How long has this been on the internet anyway? The_Dojang began in June 1994. The idea to create the list was 'stolen' from a distribution list that was/is called the "Cyberdojo" and a KMA oriented magazine that was on the stands titled "Dojang". It was important to not be style specific/limiting in the title, "Cyberdojang" was a bit too much of a ripoff, so "The_Dojang" was born. For the 1st month of operation we used a very simple mail resender, not Majordomo. We began to use Majordomo in late July 1994. All the volumes (years) are on my system, from V01 (1994) thru V07 (2000), but I don't have the posts from the very first month of operation (before Majordomo). This is the 2206th edition of the_dojang-digest since July 23, 1994. The very first post in V01/1994 was an announcement that we were going to use Majordomo as the listserver software and how to use it. Still not sure too many have figured it out over those ~6 years... :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:45:07 PST Subject: the_dojang: article > This is a new(?) question. I may have missed the discussion due to > Christmas travels. I recently purchased TKD Times with Gen Choi on the > cover (JAN 2000). I was interested in feedback on the article, i.e., how > accurate is it? The reason I pose the question that way is due to a > reference to Grandmaster Hwang Kee on page 51 as being "appointed as the > chairman of the Board of Governors [of the Korean TKD Association]". Having > read GM Hwang Kee's History of the Moo Duk Kwan, and being a Soo Bahk Do MDK > practitioner, that statement runs contrary to everything I've been taught > and read concerning his relationship to Gen Choi and TKD. Given that > apparent inaccuracy, I was curious about the rest. The biggest thing that bugged me about the interview was (1) the part about him having two names, and (2) that he chose TKD over his son. But we've already been thru that earlier. Let me see what I can dig up about the first part... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 16:31:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #11 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! 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