From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #14 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 7 Jan 2000 Vol 07 : Num 014 In this issue: the_dojang: ADD Students the_dojang: Emily the_dojang: re:commitment the_dojang: Master West's HKD seminar in February the_dojang: non-digestified version? the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #13 Re: the_dojang: ADD Students the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~745 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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I've tried breaking the form right down and working 1-2 moves per class...but still no go. They certainly seem to be trying hard enough, but things aren't clicking. I can feel their frustration, and sense that they are getting discouraged, and may drop out. I would certainly like to see them promoted for their "good effort", but I don't know if the other students going for promotion would fully understand... and I question promoting someone who doesn't know the requirements. Now the question. How would you, as an instructor, handle this situation? Thanks in advance, Ron Bain <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Ron Bain's Taekwondo Hapkido Web Guide http://www.cyberbeach.net/~bainr/martial.htm <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: "Aaron Harmon" Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:43:39 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Emily I have great sympathy for Emily, the Hapkido student who was murdered, does anyone know how her instructors are taking the news? I wouldn't want to trade places with them, they must also be going through a lot, similar to Emily's family I would think. I wonder if they feel responsible. I do not think that they are, I just wonder if they feel that they are. Aaron ~~~~~ The method of thinking is different between the Moderates and the strange Left and bizarre Right. The Moderates go with the old axiom that: "I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it." The bizarre Right says: "I disagree with what you say and I will kill you if you say it again." The strange Left says: "I disagree with what you say and I will kill myself if you say it again." ------------------------------ From: d g Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 20:12:33 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: re:commitment > You may not have meant your last sentence the way I took it, but it > sounds like you're blaming the instructors for her death - please say I > got it wrong. > > Chuck > > Actually Chuck, the way David posted it sounded like they were blaming themselves. I just wondered about this commitment part. What did they mean by that? Basics sir are important but is self defense part of it? Should that be something that should be taught right off? To tell you the truth self defense was what I was looking for. I found it in the tkd eventionally but for a while I was not confident about myself. Should more be explained while you are learning it. Knowing that the kicks in real life are not meant for just above the belt and such. To tell you the truth after reading about Emily my confidence was shaken for a while. It made me wonder what would of happened if it was me. What would I have done. First thing is not to trust anyone right away. It takes a while before I invite friends over to my place. I got to get to know them better first to see if I can trust them. It was year before I let my best friend come over. For the past couple of days I was bummed out. Talked to my instructor about this post over the internet and I also told him what I had posted. ( I apologize to anyone for not getting back to them sooner but my phone was down for a couple of days.) I had a good workout last nite especially with american one-steps. My instructor does not hold back. He punches or grabs at me like he means it and I react pretty good now. For I while I did not understand the concept but am getting the hang of it. My instructor explained some things about commitment too that helped me understand. I know not all can be learned at once. I apologize if this post offends anyone. Donna ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 17:35:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Master West's HKD seminar in February Master West, Can you fill us in on the Hapkido seminar you have coming up next month? Where, when, who, what, how much, etc? Ray Terry ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 19:54:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: non-digestified version? A few weeks ago I asked the list who might be interested in subscribing to a non-digestified version of this list if it were available again. I only heard from 2 or 3 people indicating that they would be interested in that option. Anyone else? Just checking. If you are, please let me know via the below addr. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 23:31:22 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #13 In a message dated 01/07/2000 4:30:13 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: " Highly intoxicated people can't run too fast or too far. " yes they can. but not in a straight line ;) melinda ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2000 20:51:56 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: ADD Students > I recently, for the first time, took on two students, ages 10-11, who both > have ADD. The started 3 months ago with a group of other students their age. [snip] > > Now the question. How would you, as an instructor, handle this situation? One thing I'd personally recommend is to check out Sang H. Kim's book, Teaching Difficult Children. A URL with a good writeup of it is: http://www.turtlepress.com/cgi-local/shop.pl/page=dcr.htm/SID=10754056617 Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 20:40:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #14 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com ===================================================================== To unsubscribe from this digest, the_dojang-digest, send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com in pub/the_dojang/digests. 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