From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #32 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 17 Jan 2000 Vol 07 : Num 032 In this issue: the_dojang: Dan or Don the_dojang: Re: Dan and Don the_dojang: Tournament the_dojang: 4th Poome and Promos the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #31 the_dojang: Re: How to say TaeKwonDo [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~735 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. R. West" Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:22:09 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Dan or Don Koreans have always used the same basic terms, except the Japanese "Sho-dan", becomes "Cho-dan" in Korean. This is used as a term for 1st degree, but it actually means "basic" or beginner" dan. Although the direct translation of the Hangul would be spelled "dan", it would be pronounced "don", since the "a" sound in dan (like the boys name) doesn't exist in Korean. Dojang is another example of this with the correct pronounciation being "do-jong". J. R. West www.hapkido.com ------------------------------ From: CBAUGHN@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:08:47 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Dan and Don In a message dated 1/17/00 10:54:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << If you learn Korean, you will see what we romanize as "A" is pronounced more like "Ah" >> I think you'll find most of languages other than English use the "Ah for A" sound. Korean, Japanese, and Spanish are three that come immediately to mind. As for the "eye for I" sound, to my knowledge it only exists in English. Most other languages will have an "eee for I" sound. The "eye" sound in most other languages is spelled with an "ai" combination - as in "Mhuy Thai." Finally, I once had a native Korean speaker tell me that Americans couldn't say "Tae" properly. She said it was more of a "Teh" sound. I tried and tried but never did quite get it. It's not quite "eh" and not quite "ay" -- somewhere in between. Anyway, Alain, like you, I cringe every time I hear "Tie kwon do" or "Tie Bo." Billy Blanks didn't start it, but I think he certainly made it so popular that we'll hardly ever hear the word pronounced properly again. Now, I just wonder what the announcers will call it when they do the Olympics. : ) Sally cbaughn@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Tkdtiger@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:36:51 EST Subject: the_dojang: Tournament If you are going to be in the Tulsa, OK area over February 12th - we are holding Sportfest 2000 February 12, 2000 $35 pre-registration $45 at the door everyone gets participation pin Jenks high School Physical Education Gym call or write me for details 918-491-9039 Ronda J. Sweet ps OK state will be on April 1, 2000 same location. ------------------------------ From: Tkdtiger@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:35:00 EST Subject: the_dojang: 4th Poome and Promos Got ask a new question last night and since it was actually unique, thought i would share it. Now that the Kukkiwon is issuing 4th poom to those under 18 - can and or should these kids who have earned 4th degree be allowed to sign off on kukkiwon applications just like a 4th dan? And does the kukkiwon allow 4th pooms to sign off on promotion application? Ronda J. Sweet ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:59:52 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #31 In a message dated 1/17/00 7:54:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I would like to make it known that I am very glad to no longer be the only student of Hai Dong Gumdo on the Digest. Welcome! I would also like to make it known that I am doubly glad this gumdo-in is a fellow Canadian. >> I would like to ask either gentleman a question. I have a tape on Hai Dong Gumdo and I love the swords that they use. Where would one purchase such a good sword? The swords I have seen in the martial arts supply places are expensive but really cheap ... if you know what I mean. Where would one find a sword of quality like those on the tape were using? Thank you. Illona ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:57:28 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: How to say TaeKwonDo In a message dated 1/17/00 7:54:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Interestingly, on one of my language tapes, they say the English word and then the Korean. They have taekwondo on that tape. For English, they say the Tie kwon do, and then in Korean pronounce it Taekwondo. >> Interesting. I was always taught to say it the Tie way. And my instructor was Korean. The Tae as in day was wrong he said. :::sigh::: But then again ... we couldn't hardly understand him ... I used an English/Korean dictionary for a long time trying to figure out what he wanted. LOL And eventually we got used to his English/Korean slang way of talking. :-) Thanks for the eye-opener, Alain. Illona ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:14:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #32 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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