From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #58 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 27 Jan 2000 Vol 07 : Num 058 In this issue: the_dojang: Pushups and Women the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #56 Re: the_dojang: Introduce Yourself the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #47 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #52 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #52 the_dojang: Intoductions continue the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #54 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #54 the_dojang: Re: Other african Ma the_dojang: Vietnam the_dojang: The Tao Of Jeet Kune Do [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~755 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TaoArt@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:38:03 EST Subject: the_dojang: Pushups and Women Donna writes: << I've been told that women should do pushups on their knees, not full push-up position, because otherwise it injures the womb. Others have said this is rubbish, that it's just easier to do them properly on your knees and women don't have the same upper body strength as men. >> Donna, Pushups can only harm the womb when you are _pregnant_. After working out through 2 pregnancies, I can attest to the fact that it is most uncomfortable to attempt military press pushups when 5+ months pregnant. So I supplemented with speed training and free weights until after I gave birth. However, I have never heard of any women having problems who were not pregnant. If you do them regularly you will build your limit quickly - like any other form of exercise. I am up to 50 in one session (from the toes, not the knees). And now working on pull-ups with the help of our Gravitron (assists you with your pull-up so you can do more reps). Upper body strength may not come as easy for women... but it can certainly be developed if you have the desire. Meghan Gardner Guard Up, Inc. www.GuardUp.com "When I am old, I don't want them to say of me, "She's so charming." I want them to say "Be careful, I think she's armed". - G. Stoddart ------------------------------ From: Kas001@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:43:10 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #56 In a message dated 1/26/2000 8:48:55 AM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > Subject: the_dojang: pushups... > > Hi all, > I'm just a 9th gup, and I have a few questions about pushups... > > I've been told that women should do pushups on their knees, not full push-up > > position, because otherwise it injures the womb. Others have said this is > rubbish, that it's just easier to do them properly on your knees and women > don't have the same upper body strength as men. > > Plus, how many reps should you do to increase strength in the arm and chest? > > Again I've heard differing opinions on this. > > Donnla. Sorry Donnla, I have to agree with the folks who say "rubbish". It is true that women do not have the same upper body strength (typically) as men. This means that they may need to do pushups on their knees at first, but I believe that most healthy women are perfectly capable of working up to doing standard pushups. You don't see women in the army doing pushups on their knees! I do buy the argument that full body pushups do put some strain on the lower back. This may mean that folks with back problems may want to put their knees down to reduce the strain. To get similar benefits, however, these folks will probably have to do a lot more pushups. Certain programs (aerobics, etc.) may also advocate doing pushups on the knees because they are emphasizing reps (endurance) over strength. Again, it depends on your objectives. If a physically capable woman wants to build strength and/or strength and endurance she should be able to build up to standard full body pushups. She may or may not ever be able to do as many as a "generic" man, but she can start small and build up like anyone else. The keys, as always, are desire and discipline. NOTE: All of the above refers to a physically capable women. Everyone (men and women) should listen to their body and check with their doctor if they have any health concerns that might affect their ability to perform or endure a specific exercise regimen. IMHO, - ---Kim P.S. No, I have never actually spotted a "generic" man on the street, but if you do, feel free to point him out so we will all know what one looks like. ;-) ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:59:45 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: Introduce Yourself > Learned WTF Taekwon-Do and got a fist dan blackbelt. Now studying > Hapkido and Ho Shin Sul under Korea Martial Arts Association - South > East Asia-Pacific chapter headed by Dr. Julian Lim. Our teacher is > Master Jong (6th dan in Taekwon-do, Hapkido and Ho Shin Sul). How does your school distinguish between Hapkido and Hoshinsul? > By the way, this is a great place to be if you are interested in Silat. > The original, brutal and unsanitized types. Yes, tell us more. I love Eskrima, and Silat is somewhat similar to it. Are silat schools popular there or is it more like it is here in the States where it is a bit underground? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Gregg London Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:17:15 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #47 Good Day U.S. Open Competitors, I received the following from Caesar Paet, Tournament Director: "Due to circumstances beyond our control, the U.S. Open Schedule has changed. Said changes are minor in the Senior Competition (switching of competition days), but are major in the Junior Competition, as the competition has been changed from February 3rd, Thursday to February 4th, Friday. We apologize for any inconvenience. The Updated Schedule can be seen at: http://www.usopentkd.com/whatsnew.html along with other last minute changes." - -- Gregg London Digital Engineer http://www.glondon.com ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:48:58 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #52 In a message dated 1/24/00 6:11:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > look at > > using > > front leg round kicks when the opponent is closing - either for scoring to > > the head or making them think twice before coming in. I also teach this methodology -- for the same reasons -- as a tactical option in this situation. It is a practical alternative to using an evasion and counter, or an off-the-line back kick (preemptive counter). SESilz ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:51:01 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #52 In a message dated 1/24/00 6:11:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > Just remember - Mr. > > Sidekick > > > is your only friend out there < If he is your only friend "out there," you had better stay in. SESilz ------------------------------ From: "David A. Hacker" Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:38:52 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Intoductions continue Started training in college 1977 under Master J. D. Lawler in Temple Texas. Upon Graduation in 1979 I moved to Washington DC area and resume training with the late Grandmaster Ki Whang Kim. Due to differences in training philosophy I left, and went to further my education elsewhere. In the intervening years I've trained / Crossed trained in Wing Chun Northern Shaolin JuJitsu Ninjitsu Kenjitsu Iaijitsu Aikido European Fencing Hapkido And lately returned to Tang Soo Do (1995). The school I'm in now, "Chung Su Martial Arts" - Instructor Brian Costello, teaches Tang Soo Do, Jujitsu, and Kick Boxing. Plus we have a good amount of the Okinawan Weapons forms courtesy of Goju Ryu. Received Cho Dan in our school June 1999. One of my other hobbies (if you can call it that) include researching the history, philosophy, and structure of Martial Arts. To which - my English text library is up to 586 books on the Martial Arts. I haven't started buying Chinese / Japanese / Korean books as yet. I still live in the DC area with my wife and our 5 cats. My good friend Cecil Washington is also on this list. Dave Hacker Cho Dan Tang Soo Do ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:20:14 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #54 In a message dated 1/25/00 1:10:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > Bill Wallace was a pioneer in the American Kickboxing scene. If you look at > some of his older fights he along with Benny "The Jet" Uriquez (sic), Joe > Lewis, and so forth really accomplished much. No doubt, they were great athletes -- especially, in my opinion, "the Jet" -- but what do you mean by "accomplishments," other than, obviously, their personal victories in the ring? Anything on a larger scale? Any contributions to mankind? Seriously, SESilz ------------------------------ From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:23:42 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #54 Help? Can anyone help me identify a serious and reputable Kali/Escrima or Jiu-jitsu teacher for a friend in Colorado Springs? My martial arts knowledge is limited to the realm of taekwondo. SESilz ------------------------------ From: "Karel van der Walt" Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:02:59 +0200 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Other african Ma The infrequent 'Martial art legends presents...' magazine had an issue on = Exotic Martial arts of the world. It contained an article on Zulu stick fighting. The author, a foreign = student, assisted SABC in making a documentary on the subject. The Zulu nation has a great warrior tradition and in the rural areas of = their native land their tradition is still very intact. Hostel life in urban areas brought an interesting integration with = tradition but has eroded it somewhat as well. Interestingly the author was introduced to stickfighting by the 'white = zulu' Johnny Clegg at the University where he was doing his research (on a = different topic). Clegg is i.a. full-time lecturer but also successful performing artist = with many albums to his credit e.g soundtrack to Jock of the Bushveld. This probably belongs more on the ecrima list, but if, after consulting MA = Legends you want more info, I can try to track the documentary. Karel PS. I buy my Ma mags from kiloshop. (late but discounted) My Rott pub digs = them too - last night in my abscence she destroyed a Kung Fu / Qigong! ------------------------------ From: Andrew Pratt Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:53:02 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: Vietnam Dear Ray, >> Master West, I was fortunate enough to (barely) miss that little party. Was it common/uncommon for people to formally train in the martial arts while stationed in Vietnam? What arts did you see being taught in Nam? << Although I, of course, can not comment on the events at the time, I have two stories that might be of interest. When I visited Vietnam in 1995, I was wandering around Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) and walked into a temple where a local hero is remembered for defeating the Chinese. I was (pleasantly) surprised to find a TKD in residence. They were not practising in the grounds, but in the temple itself. I was amazed that they didn't break anything. I speak no Vietnamese so could not ask important questions, like how long they had been practising, etc. It looked like they were training in WTF style if memory serves me right. This seemed a little curious because if they had learned TKD during the 1970s one would have thought they would likely to have learned ITF style(???) I was looking for an ma instructor one time in Korea. I had seen an advert in a local paper and had had a map faxed to me. I went to the location but was unable to meet they guy. However, near there was a TKD dojang. It was locked, but the wall outside was plastered with photographs of the instructor and his club through the years. What immediately caught my eye was the pictures from the Vietnam war. There were, perhaps twenty pictures in all. The showed the kwanjang-nim doing various things (such as breaking bricks with his hands). He was mostly dressed in drab green combat fatigues. In quite a few of the pictures, Americans can be seen in the background. Indeed, if memory serves correctly, the same faces crop up in the background of different pictures. I intended to return to the dojang and ask the kwanjang-nim about the pictures, but work commitments (I don't normally leave the office before 7pm) means that I probably would not arrive at the dojang until after it had closed. Yours, Andrew ------------------------------ From: Nick McKenna Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:19:54 -0000 Subject: the_dojang: The Tao Of Jeet Kune Do Dear All Not entirely on topic, I know, but I just got this book, and even the first few pages hold some surprises for me. I'd really like to know more about the JKD On-Guard position. Does anyone know where I might find photos of people doing this stance? I tried out the stance as described and sketched, and it felt very uncomfortable, particularly the pinning of the tip of the chin to the collar and the side of the chin against the shoulder. The lean forward is also a bit awkward. What does everyone think of this particular stance? Thanks for your insight, Nick. - ------------------------------------------------------ Email: nick@arutha.demon.co.uk Nick_McKenna@PortaSystemsDev.com The Doctor: "Allow me to congratulate you sir. You have the most totally closed mind that I've ever encountered." ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 06:49:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #58 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.