From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #63 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 28 Jan 2000 Vol 07 : Num 063 In this issue: the_dojang: Hanshi Bruce Juchnik's Feb. Seminar update. the_dojang: Re: Verbal Self Defense= try the Attacktics System by Terry Dobson the_dojang: Fw: something to read the_dojang: What did he say? the_dojang: more? [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~755 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMYT@ATFI.COM (JeremyT) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:16:24 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Hanshi Bruce Juchnik's Feb. Seminar update. The seminar on 2/19 & 20 has been opened to colored belts Sat & Sun from 8am-noon. Afternoon sessions on both days brown & black only! For more info on Chicago area seminars (including Sensei Martin's area) check out www.compnetco.com/macs. If you wish to list a seminar in that area, let me know! ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:21:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Verbal Self Defense= try the Attacktics System by Terry Dobson Book Recommendation: A great book, originally published in 1979 (now in second edition), is called "The Attacktics System: Giving In to Get Your Way", by Terry Dobson. This book came out of the heyday of "Assertiveness Training". In contrast, this book took the martial art of Aikido and Ki Energy and used those concepts in verbal confrontations. Principles of "Fogging", and circular motion of verbal attacks are covered. Conceptually, it is an Eastern approach to dealing with individuals who are often "Verbally Aggressive". One line I always remember: "Be the water and not the rock." A close friend of mine who is a pastoral counselor also uses this book in his counseling practice. See ya, McD... - --- > At 11:18 PM 1/27/00 -0800, you wrote: > >For what it's worth, I believe the book to which you refer is "The > >Gentle Art of Verbal Self Defense" by Suzette Hayden Elgin (of > >course, I may have badly misspelled her name). > >Jim Griffin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "hkdhal" Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:19:44 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Fw: something to read Subject: something to read > Well it took 21 years to reach a point where I would promote my first black > belts. Just over 17 years ago when I was promoted to first dan, I thought > and dreamed of a day when I would have students of my own that would attain > the level I had attained. More importantly, the skill and knowledge that I > had attained. My students made me proud to be their instructor, mentor, and > friend. Mike Wong, Patrick Edenburn, and Bob Hansen were my first students > in Connecticut to train with me and have been there helping to promote > Mooyekwan through the years and sacraficing to be the best they can be in > Hapkido. We had two other students that tested with us that have trained > with other masters and continued their training with Master Whalen and > myself. Michael Choi and R. J. Bottecello. These two fine gentleman are > truely worthy of their first dan rank under the KHA and sanctioned by MYK. > They are also very capable 2nd Dan (Mike) and 3rd Dan (R.J.) in Taekwondo. > One of my students, Patrick, wrote two excellent little write ups on the > test. I think he does the test justice and I thought I would share it with > you all. So please keep reading and thank you for indulging me. As for my > students, Thank You. > > Article one > > On a cold Saturday in late January several "firsts" occurred at the Moo Ye > Kwan school in Connecticut. It was the first, 1st dan test conducted at the > Connecticut School. It was the first, 1st dan test of the millennium for Moo > Ye Kwan anywhere. It was the first class of students trained under Master > Mike McCarty to be elevated to the rank of Black Belt and it included Master > McCarty's first student, Mike Wong. > > The candidates were tested by a board consisting of Master Hal Whalen, > Master Mike McCarty, Mike Forrestall, 1st dan and Mike Rooney 1st dan, The > test lasted from shortly after 11:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. with three, five > minute breaks. The test covered strikes, kicks, defenses against kicks and > strikes, break-aways, straight wrist and cross wrist jointlocks, throws and > throw defenses, both one-man and two-man sparring, breaking techniques, > dan-bong, cane and long pole techniques, knife and pistol defenses, pressure > points, chokes and the philosophy of hapkido. > > Promoted to 1st Dan Black Belt on January 22, 2000 were the aforementioned > Mike Wong as well as Bob Hansen, Mike Choi, R J Botticelli and Patrick > Edenburn. Mike Wong, Bob and Patrick have trained with Moo Ye Kwan for > nearly four years. RJ and Mike Choi began their studies elsewhere and tested > under the KHA guidelines. Providing capable and much appreciated assistance > to the candidates were Bill Bryce, 6th gueb, Rick Olmstead, 4th gueb and > Devon Prince 6th gueb, all of Connecticut. > > Not tested that day were Jeff, Marcus and Chris. Unless you were one of the > newly promoted Black Belts you probably don't know who these last three are. > They are three people who started their studies at about the same time as > the others but for one reason or another they dropped out. There are lots of > factors in success, talent, speed, strength, agility and age are all > factors. About the only factors totally within ones own hands are desire and > willingness to work. These are the most critical factors in success. If the > student does not quit, refuses to accept defeat and simply keeps working he > or she will very likely succeed. It must be said that even with this effort > he or she may still fail but it will not be because he or she quit. Don't > quit, you haven't failed until you do. > > Article Two > > The First Moo Ye Kwan 1st Dan Test in Connecticut > Patrick Edenburn 1/24/00 > > Well, I did it. It took four years, several million otherwise useless brain > cells and about 30% of my physical range of motion but I got my Black Belt. > I also got a couple of billboard-sized bruises, several dead zones on my > body where there is virtually no nerve response to the touch and a sudden > inability to do long division that I hope is temporary. Not only did I get a > Black Belt but also my good friends in the witness protection plan here in > Connecticut, Mike Wong, Bob (Not Robert) Hansen, RJ (Not Richard Thomas) > Botticelli and Mike Choi from NY got theirs. These are a swell group of > guys. Collectively we're a pretty impressive group as well. As a group we > represent ten dan ranks, eight college degrees, four languages other than > English and twelve felony convictions with two more overturned on appeal. > Another statistical oddity is that Mike Wong and I together are about as old > as the rest of them put together. Older, actually. > > True to the words of the Prophet, it was a cold day in hell when I got my > 1st Dan. The outside temperature never got out of the single digits and > Masters Whalon and McCarty did their best to construct the hell. The test > itself lasted just under six hours with three, five-minute breaks. I used my > time wisely dedicating the breaks to a ceaseless search for oxygen. > > We had a great deal of help during the test from some Connecticut students > who weren't testing. During the actual test I think I and lifted and dropped > Devon Prince probably four hundred times. Devon is a large, strong and very > impressive and promising yellow-belt who, once he recovers, will kill me. > The really scary part is he was actually a better choice than for this > purpose than was Bill Bryce. Bill (if that's his real name) is hard to > describe. He's more than just a yellow-belt Hapkido student, more than just > a friend. He's a freaking geological feature. In an attempt to convey > something about his size to people who have not met him let me simply say > that he has his own time zone and his own weather. My remaining choice was > Rick Olmstead but I'm way to smart to mess with Rick. Rick is actually only > about my size but a very strong blue-belt. He is also nearly my age, which > means he can be viciously cruel and actually enjoy it. People under forty > don't realize just how mean middle-age can make a person. You young folks > have the young dates, the wild parties and the mortgage-free life style. We > have the hemorrhoids, the snarling spouses and the insufferable kids. You > give someone burdened with this sort of baggage a chance to hurt someone (it > hardly matter whom) and we are going to unload a ton of hateful venom faster > than Rosie O'Donnell can make doughnut disappear. > > Some say simply surviving is success. I don't know but I do know that that > expression contains far too many "S's" for me to pronounce right now > considering what Bob did to my jaw during the free sparing. To be fair, my > still imperfect technique in countless areas has caused all of my partners > various injuries. For this I am sorry and hereby apologize. However, being > the mean S.O.B. that I am, I do kind of like the way Bob's right foot looks > like a purple watermelon with toes. ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 15:44:53 PST Subject: the_dojang: What did he say? <? And Scott at samiller@Bix.Com, when you say Tang Soo! ? I've never heard it used that way before???>> It's kind of a greeting/shout of encouragement. My instructor has his students say "Taekwon" when they bow to each other and some of the senior belts use it as an exclamation when we do something really cool, like performing a flying multiple kick the yellow and green belts think is impossible ;) . I might literally be saying "Kick-puch" but that's not the exact meaning. Gen. Choi and GM Hwang Kee both have their students do similar things from what I have experienced. And so... Taekwon, Chris "Every experience of beauty points to infinity." Hans Urs von Balthasar ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:00:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: more? > Just wondering who we currently have subscribed to the_dojang that are > in the Yawara-ish arts, e.g. Hapkido, Kuk Sool, Hanmudo, HwaRang Do, > Yudo, etc? > > Which style, what rank, time in the art, school(s) at which you learn or > run, what you like most about it, etc? Surely there are more of you out there? Ray Terry ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:06:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #63 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.