From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #73 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 2 Feb 2000 Vol 07 : Num 073 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #71 the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #72 the_dojang: Re: your yudo ranking the_dojang: Re: marc's quote the_dojang: STRETCHING the_dojang: Re: HMD and HKD the_dojang: Hapkido Forms Re: the_dojang: Hapkido Forms [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~755 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ward, Jon" Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:12:55 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #71 Hi John, We do something similar in my school. A blend of Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido and Inayan Eskrima. I find that it really gives you a well balanced idea of self defense. Who did Grant get his master's degree from in Serrada? Guro Jon Ward Inayan Eskrima > From: STisorwall@aol.com > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:35:52 EST > Subject: the_dojang: Re: Cross-training > > Hi Piotr: > Thanks for your interest. The structure of our program is pretty flexible. > All students (as far as I know) have the opportunity to train 3-5 days a week > in TKD. Motivated students (for an additional fee schedule), and any black > belt may participate in weekly cross training classes that run in addition to > the regular courses. This ~1.5 hour period (Black Belt Club, or BBC) is > structured according to the instructor teaching that day. All the > instructors are 3rd dan TKD, are jujitsu black belts (I'm not sure if there's > a minimum degree) and are certificated masters in escrima. > The students have a choice about what they want to participate in..some folks > aren't as keen on jujutsu..everyone seems to like escrima. Higher ranked > students who show particular aptitude in escrima receive additional, more > sophisticated instruction in tactical baton, collapsible whips, etc. There's > some sort of Master program that only the dan-ranked students participate in > as well. > Gup-ranked TKD students are encouraged to participate in the jujitsu and > escrima training, provided they have shown adequate self-control and > initiative in their TKD training. > The jujitsu program works through the traditional kyu-dan progression. The > program covers yawara, nage, gatame, shime, oku, shinen, and shinyo arts as > well as knife and firearm techniques. > Assuming that a dan-ranked student takes full advantage of the training > opportunities, they would receive weekly 5 hours of TKD, and 3 hours of > jujitsu/escrima per week (assuming they attend both BBC and Masters > training). There's only a very few who do this...they are extremely > formidable fighters (and are also polite, respectful people who are a genuine > pleasure to be around). I hope to be one someday. Its not often that I find > myself wanting to emulate the behavior of a high school student 12 years my > junior. These guys rate it. > I hope you find this informative. > > - -JW > Oh...I should probably mention that we (naturally) have a URL. I'll preface > it by saying that Mr. Tabuchi has plans for a more instruction-oriented > site...he's a bit embarrassed by the impression that this site seems to be > > all about him! Its not really..and I think its a pretty good initial > attempt..no I had nothing to do with writing it ;) HREF="http://www.blackbeltonline.com/">http://www.blackbeltonline.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Vaught, Clifford (CLF N6Y2K8)" Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:20:32 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #72 WOW - or should I really say, do you work for a living? I envy you for having the TIME to study 5 martial arts. I find it more than enough to try to become accomplished at Soo Bahk Do Moo Duk Kwan. As much as I'd like to learn more Aikido and maybe someday learn more about Hapkido, there simply aren't enough days in the week to do it - unless you don't have a job in the traditional sense. Are you saying here that you are CURRENT in all five? Or are you saying, over the course of your life, you have studied these but are currently studying Han Mu Do? Soo Bahk!! Cliff Vaught - ------------------------------ From: SunBiNim@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:41:20 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #49 In a message dated 1/23/00 11:34:09 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Which style, what rank, time in the art, school(s) at which you learn or run, what you like most about it, etc? >> Han Mu Do (5th dan), Hapkido (2nd dan), Kuk Sool (1st dan), Kukki Taekwondo (1st dan), Yudo (no rank, just sore body). Started training with Do Ju Nim Kimm, He-young in 1982 after a brief stint in karate in early 70's. (Thanks to "Billy Jack") ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:39:53 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: your yudo ranking In a message dated 02/02/2000 2:02:31 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Yudo (no rank, just sore body). >> i believe that's a "black and blue" belt :) melinda http://hometown.aol.com/chunjido/homehtmlindex.html Looking for enlightenment is like looking for a flashlight, when all you need the flashlight for is to find the flashlight. ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:38:46 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: marc's quote In a message dated 02/02/2000 2:02:31 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << are you asserting that learning only certain aspects self defense, such as awareness techniques, is not valuable? >> i doubt that completely. alain and marc both believe being aware and getting away from the situation or avoiding it altogether is more important than hanging out and proving who's got the better technique. melinda http://hometown.aol.com/chunjido/homehtmlindex.html Looking for enlightenment is like looking for a flashlight, when all you need the flashlight for is to find the flashlight. ------------------------------ From: "Vaught, Clifford (CLF N6Y2K8)" Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:16:05 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: STRETCHING Came upon an article at this website: http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/EMIHC000/333/333/267074.html that may provide some great discussion. It questions the benefit of stretching. I personally can't imagine training without stretching so I put it up to the forum. Soo Bahk!! Cliff Vaught ------------------------------ From: SunBiNim@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:19:07 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: HMD and HKD The differences between HapKiDo and HanMuDo have to do with several factors. We practice forms that use the same techniques as our rank requirements, our sparring system is unique, and we use more large circle (yudo) techniques, to name a few. To find an interesting interview with Do Ju Nim Kimm that explains these differences in detail, try the link below. Please forgive me, the website is under construction, and I'm a web white belt: http://www.geocities.com/hanmudojang/Interview.html Thanks, Steve Kincade ------------------------------ From: "A. Boyd" Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:33:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido Forms Every school of Hapkido that I have investigated here in Korea have taken a different approach to teaching forms. The school I studied in (kum moo kwan) began teaching forms at white belt but just for the sake of familiarity. Real training in forms came later but there were only three forms. They were a way of solo practice. Other schools choose to have no forms at all or forms only at red belt but not as testing requirements. One school teaches them only a few weeks before the test for first dan and makes them a testing requirement - again, the same three forms my school used. Still another school used a form at every gup level and made it a part of the test for each belt. In short, it seems to be entirely up to the instructor and their vision of a good teaching methodology. ===== Anthony BT Boyd: Swordsman and English Teacher For illumination on this curious occupation please follow this link: http://victorian.fortunecity.com/operatic/739 ICQ#: 45348443 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 16:07:19 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: Hapkido Forms > Every school of Hapkido that I have investigated here in Korea have taken a different > approach to teaching forms. The school I studied in (kum moo kwan) began teaching forms > at white belt but just for the sake of familiarity. Real training in forms came later but > there were only three forms. They were a way of solo practice. > Other schools choose to have no forms at all or forms only at red belt but not as > testing requirements. One school teaches them only a few weeks before the test for first > dan and makes them a testing requirement - again, the same three forms my school used. > Still another school used a form at every gup level and made it a part of the test for > each belt. > In short, it seems to be entirely up to the instructor and their vision of a good > teaching methodology. So the Hapkido forms/kata/poomse/hyung/tul/insert-other-names-here you saw were like TKD poomse? The kata of Jujutsu/Judo/Aikido seem to be two person forms. The kata are a set of responses to a particular set of attacks. Just wondering if any Hapkido folks had forms of that nature. ?? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:52:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #73 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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