From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #91 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 10 Feb 2000 Vol 07 : Num 091 In this issue: the_dojang: Hapkido - Please Help the_dojang: Re: 9th Dans the_dojang: Santa Cruz ? the_dojang: Re:time the_dojang: sparring seminar the_dojang: Re: V7 #87: breakfalls the_dojang: 9th Dan the_dojang: Step two of the exercise the_dojang: Korean Language Village the_dojang: Korean Karate Available [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~775 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:57:45 EST Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido - Please Help I too want to say I appreciate all of the knowledge that many of the Masters and Grandmasters on this list bring to this forum. Thank you all for helping me learn more, and I do hope I can meet you all one of these days so we can share things in person. I just received this e-mail, and I do not know of anyone in Santa Cruz. I'm posting this on a couple of lists, hoping that someone here can give me something to pass on to this gentleman. I did write him back telling him that Hapkido does include cane techniques, and that I would try and find some information out for him. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you. - Alain His Note: Mr. Burrese. Love your Hapkido Hoshinsul tape . I live in Santa cruz an have been looking for a school ever since I bought your tape . So far I've not been able to find anyone who teaches the art, If by chance you or your people should know of a dojo here in Santa Cruz please E. mail me so I can sign up . I was hit by a drunk driver a few years ago , an now I get to walk w/ a cane , I'm just glad I can walk at all, is there any aspects of Hapkido that teaches self defend for the cane? Mr Burrese if you teach this or can refer me to someone who does I would be grateful Thank you for your wonderful tape and your time. ------------------------------ From: jsegovia@mindspring.com Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 11:47:18 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: 9th Dans When I studied Hapkido in Korea in the mid 80s, my instructor showed me the first Hapkido book ever made; I think it was first published in the late 60s (I have the 1976 reprint at home). GM Myung KwangShik (then 7th Dan) and Kim JoonTek (then 6th Dan - does anyone know where he is now?) put the book together, and demo'd the techniques, under the auspices of GM Ji HanJae. In the front of the book is a very large picture of a young GM Ji HanJae. I honestly don't know if there is any photo of the founder Choi YongSool in the entire book; I'll have to check tonight. My instructor opened up the book to the photo of GM Ji, and said 'this is the man we follow.' Jesse ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 9:11:03 PST Subject: the_dojang: Santa Cruz ? > I just received this e-mail, and I do not know of anyone in Santa Cruz. I'm > posting this on a couple of lists, hoping that someone here can give me > something to pass on to this gentleman. I did write him back telling him > that Hapkido does include cane techniques, and that I would try and find some > information out for him. Santa Cruz is only ~25 mins away from San Jose (at times of no traffic). But I don't know of any Hapkido over in Santa Cruz, there may be, but not to my knowledge. I know of some Silat, maybe some Eskrima, some Kempo, JuJutsu, but no Hapkido/KukSool/HwarangDo to my knowledge. But just drive 'over the hill' and there is a wider selection of schools/styles in the South Bay Area. Anyone else know of other schools in Santa Cruz? wrt Hapkido cane, I always found the throwing/hooking techniques very good, but only if you didn't really need to use the cane to walk or stand. Perhaps a simple strike would still work, but ... Comments? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Sam Stratton" Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 09:16:20 PST Subject: the_dojang: Re:time In response to the query of how much time it takes to advance to 1st dan: My particular case I took 3 years 4 months of training at least 3 times a week (usually 5 times) I am 35 though and never skipped a belt. I also helped out in the kids clas from green belt on up. I would be interested to know how many individuals thought they were ready/not ready to test when their Master told them to. I know there were times when I did not think I was ready, but you never say no when a Grand Master tells you to do something. Sam Stratton WTF 1st dan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Maureen Panganiban Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:17:31 PST Subject: the_dojang: sparring seminar STANFORD HWA RANG KWAN Korean Martial Arts Club is sponsoring a sparring seminar taught by SEUNG MIN LEE 6-time Woman's World Tae Kwon Do Champion Saturday, February 12, 2000 12:00 noon - 4:00 pm Hwa Rang Kwan Martial Arts Center 133 Roosevelt Avenue, Redwood City (near the corner of El Camino Real and Roosevelt Ave.) World Championship Record 1990 Asian Championship in Taipei, Taiwan 1992 World College Championship in Guadalajara, Mexico 1993 World Championship in New York City 1995 World Chapionship in Manila, Philippines 1996 Asian Championship in Melbourne, Australia 1996-1997 Best of the Best World Championship in Osaka, Japan 1997 Asian Championship, Pusan, Korea Current Korean National Champion Contender in the 2000 Sydney, Australia Olympic Games Registration fee of $45. Fee is payable at the door in either cash or checks. Checks to be made payable to Stanford Hwa Rang Kwan. For further information, please email Maureen Panganiban at mopan@leland.stanford.edu, or call (650) 725-5076. ------------------------------ From: samiller@Bix.Com Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:00:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: V7 #87: breakfalls When I trained in judo (several lifetimes ago;>), we used the old style canvas mats that absorbed much less shock than modern mats. I have practiced breakfalls without mats, and I agree that it is a great way to refine technique. I don't recall ever doing this on as unforgiving a surface as a basketball floor, though. OTOH, maybe I did, and have a concussion-induced memory loss because I performed them improperly;>) Ray Terry wrote: >They explained >that at their club they had never used mats. They met in a basketball gym >and since they didn't have and couldn't afford mats they didn't believe >in using them... :) Anyway, these guys (supposedly) never (seldom?) >practiced their fall on mats, so they were quickly forced into learning >proper breakfalls. === Tang Soo! Scott ------------------------------ From: SunBiNim@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 13:17:17 EST Subject: the_dojang: 9th Dan In a message dated 2/10/00 9:07:29 AM Central Standard Time, Todd Miller writes: << GM Chang was promoted to Head (Doju) of Hapkido >> Although I don't speak Korean, my understanding is that "Doju" is "founder", and one isn't promoted to that rank. It is a title bestowed on the one and only founder of a particular style/art/ system. Does that mean that GM Chang is truly the founder of Hapkido? It seems like if we are going to understand the somewhat murky history of hapkido it would be to our advantage to first understand the language, doesn't it? Respectfully, Steve Kincade ------------------------------ From: Scott Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:14:35 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Step two of the exercise Well did everyone finish making a list of their personal strenghts and weaknesses? Great! Now on to step two. The second part of this is exercise narrows the scope of our inspection. This time we take a single stiuation. For instance at being at home. Again we list the strengths and weakness that we can think of for that situation. At Home: Strenghts: 1. Any place I am in my house I'm not more then 5' from a weapon. (one of the perks of being a bacholor my whole house is a Dojang) 2. Metal doors. 3. Secure Windows that would have to be broken to enter.(several are painted shut and a couple nailed) 4. Secondary exit from any room. Weaknesses: 1. Live alone. 2. No dead bolts on two doors. 3. No Security system. 4. Unattached garage Now as before revist each strength and weakness and come up with ways to increase of decrease the effect of each in the given situation. Strenghts: 1. Any place I am in my house I'm not more then 5' from a weapon. A. Make sure that these are all more difficult for an intruder to find. (most are behind doors or in corners that are not in plan sight.) B. Upgrade less leathal weapons to more dangerous ones. 2. Metal doors. A. Install reinforced frames. B. Install security reinforced door stops. 3. Fairly Secure Windows that would have to be broken to enter.(several are painted shut and a couple nailed) A. Add security system to all windows B. Install new windows that are more secure. 4. Secondary exit from any room. A. reinforce standard entries to allow more time to escape through secondard. Weaknesses: 1. Live alone. A. Get a BIG dog. B. Get a roommate. C. Get married. D. Have nearby friends on speed dial. 2. No dead bolts on two doors. A. Install Dead bolts. 3. No Security system. A. Get a full security System. B. Install motion senor lights indoors. C. Get one of those Cheesy motion senor Frogs that "Ribbit" 4. Unattached garage A. Add motion senor lights outside. B. Rebuild the garage as attached. (turn the current into Dojang) Agian some of these Ideas may not be workable but I still need to think of as many of them as possible to allow me more options. The purpose of these exercises is to allow students to think of situations and some of the things that they can do to make themselves more secure. In each class we review one situation from the week before and start a brain storm on a new one. While I have a list of standard situations that we review over and over agian, the students are encoraged to make up their own stiuations from their own experiances. This allows them to make plans spacific to their own situations. My standard list is: At home At work At the Store. At school. In the Car. At the Bar. (I do not like green eggs and ham) This disscussion helps bring up some very different Ideas. Example: One women in the is a college student. She does her shopping alone at night. Another one doesn't have a car so she has to walk to the store. Solution, the first one started picking the second one up and taking her with her. Two problems solved. Another thing this brings out is how no one solution will work for everyone. One women carries a kind of flash bang device in her purse.(never seen on like it before) If confronted in a parking lot she plans to pop it and run for the store. However for the mother with three young children this is not an option. She has to slow the attacker down so that her children can get to the store for help. (talk about a scary situation) Well that is the second step in the exercise. Let me know what you think. Also if you ladies can give me examples some of your strenghts, weaknesses, and eveyones fixes that you come up with I would like to use them to inhance my classes. thanks Scott ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:47:08 PST Subject: the_dojang: Korean Language Village Forwarding. Ray ================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 10:38:36 -0700 From: jrpking@unixg.ubc.ca (Ross King) Subject: Korean Language Village Dear Korean Martial Arts Enthusiast: I am writing in my capacity as Dean of "Sup sogui Hosu", the Korean Language Village at Concordia Language Villages (http://www.cord.edu) in the Minnesota north woods with news about our new summer immersion programs in Korean language and culture. I am hoping that our program will be of interest to you and/or your colleagues and students on two fronts. The first front: my greatest hope is that many of your students will be interested in attending our village to learn Korean. We offer immersion programming for young people ages 7-18. Last summer, our first year of programming, we attracted 82 villagers from 13 states and Canada. This summer (2000) we offer two weeks of programming again in June (June 12-24). Our villagers last year were a diverse bunch -- adopted Koreans, second-generation Korean Americans, and many kids with no ethnic Korean background whatsoever. But whatever their background, the most enthusiastic and most successul villagers, hands down, were the Taekwondo practicioners. We'd love to get more of them, and figure that if a young person has already made a commitment to learning Korean martial arts, he or she might also be interested in learning Korean language and culture. Note also that our village programming includes instruction in Taekwondo (last year we had 4 blackbelts on staff). But for us, the Taekwondo (and all our cultural activities) is there as yet another vehicle or excuse for teaching language - -- we leave the serious TKD instruction to the pros (you!), outside of camp. The other front is of course staffing. We are always looking for enthusiastic practicioners of Korean martial arts with good kid skills, good leadership skills, and good Korean language skills, to work on our staff. You don't have to be a native Korean speaker to serve on our staff, but if you are not Korean, you would have to have learned the language to a pretty high level through formal study at one of the recognized programs in Korea (Yonsei University, etc.). If you know anybody who might be interested in working on staff, please let me know. Thanks for your attention. If you would like us to send you information about the Korean Language Village (or the Chinese and Japanese Languages Villages), please reply to this message with a mailing address (we found you on the web) -- we would be happy to send a flyer and brochures for your school. Otherwise, you can always find us on the web at www.cord.edu. Our site also has on-line interactive villager and staff applications. Kamsa hamnida. Ross King Associate Professor of Korean, University of British Columbia and Dean, Korean Language Village, Concordia Language Villages ------------------------------ From: "John Groff" Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:09:44 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Korean Karate Available For anyone still trying to obtain Son Duk Sung & Robert Clark's "Korean Karate", which includes the forms up to cho-dan for most Chung Do Kwan, Moo Duk Kwan, and Kang Mu Kwan (Son's style) practitioners, I've got a used one up for bid at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=257678957 Also have several others on Shorinji Kempo, Oyama's The Kyokushinkai Way, etc. More will follow later this week and next. . . Thanks, Chaney ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:22:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #91 ******************************* It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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