From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #131 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 26 Feb 2000 Vol 07 : Num 131 In this issue: the_dojang: Hapkido (aka Lady KungFu) the_dojang: Questions from Mitar the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #129 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #127 [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RDNHJMS@aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:05:35 EST Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido (aka Lady KungFu) <> Ray, GM Ji told me most of the techniques in the movie were his, with the exception of Angela Mao who performed mostly kung fu style techniques. He trained those folks for about two years before making the movie, including a young Samo Hung of Martial Law fame. GM Ji said making movies was very difficult, because even for simple scenes, the director wanted to redo everything until he thought it was right. So it took a long time to shoot very simple scenes. In any case, it's a true classic. I think I have the same type of copy you have, and it seems to have been dubbed with Dutch subtitles. But well worth watching. By the way, GM Ji called yesterday and said he was coming down to Florida to visit me next week. He seems to plan his visits with me a lot that way. One time he called me on a Friday evening and said he would be here on Saturday and we would train through the weekend. When he visits, we'll practice some Hapkido, do some fishing, practice some more Hapkido, do some fishing, etc. His philosophy regarding Hapkido, and life, is really more important than the physical techniques. My favorite: "Do not refuse that which comes to you, and do not hold to that which leaves you." This includes people, and is important if you want to understand him and his art, especially when you see so many people throughout the world who have trained with him, got what they wanted, and then abandoned him. I have spent some great times with him, and hope to for many more years. He is who he is. For those who profess to be Hapkido practitioners and have never trained with him, believe me you are missing something very important. Ray and the other folks out there who have trained with him know what I am talking about. Very Respectfully, Rick Nabors ------------------------------ From: Chris S Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 01:07:28 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Questions from Mitar >Does anyone have some expirience in combat against people from other MA, >especialy those that are using close-range style? How to keep the >distance from them, and is it better to try to use some technique if >they try to grab you, or to avoid them and then attack? Mitar, At my college, I'm in a few different MA groups, and besides TKD, I also practice Silat. This is an extremely close in style, and from most of my experience, TKD doesn't teach dealing with attacks like the ones we use in Silat, at least from what I've seen(actually, my Silat has no attacks, it just comes in of others attacks). A lot of the MA's here at school go to a joint sparring session open to all styles(TKD, Silat, Kung Fu, grappling, etc.) and there is good solid contact, not full, but close, and not to point, it's timed. My friends have told me that it's very tiring for TKD to fight the grapplers, since they need to stay away constantly. One also mentioned how useful combination kicks are, since they are difficult to go in on. One other thing, I've noticed some people have a tendency to stand with their leg up, like in a chamber for a kick. One of the guys that did this with grappler wouldn't pull his leg down fast enough, and he got taken down a lot. This is what I have heard from friends in both groups, I have to work on the sparring day, so this is all second hand knowledge. I hope this helps. Chris ------------------------------ From: "Rodney G. Graves" Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:25:09 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #129 Mitar, While studying Hapkido in Korea, one of the junior students in my class was a 2nd Dan Black Belt in Taekwondo (White Belt in Hapkido), and U. S. Armed Forces Silver Medalists in his weight class (Heavy Weight). The individual in question was a Marine Gunnery Sergeant (6' 3" and 230 lbs of muscle) and in top shape. In sparring, I consistently dumped him on his posterior (or head, when I was rushed). All bragging aside, my Sabum worked us very hard. His Sabum (my Kwanjang Nim) held us up as examples of focus and dedication on several occasions to various other schools where we were testing. The other schools had individual students who were better stylists, but as a whole they lacked the focus an dedication which we demonstrated when we were on site to practice or test. It was hard, and I have not been challenged to the same extent since I have been back in the states. I hope to some day find the same level of martial arts here (and have great hope, since my Sabum was an American), but will remain active regardless. Hapkido has become my #1 commitment after work. It has been a very positive influence on me, and I hope to continue to grow in the art. V/R Rod At 12:48 PM 2/25/00 -0800, you wrote: >From: "Mitar" >Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 19:36:03 +0100 cet >Subject: the_dojang: Thanks, and some more questions > >1. I have to thank again to Alain Burrese and Sammy for the messages >they've sent to my e-mail. >2. I must also thanks Michael Choi for the great comparison between TKD >and HKD, and for trying to help me to find out aboud HKD schools in >Serbia (I'm now almost completly sure that there aren't any). >3. Thanks to Sam Stratton on his view of unarmed combat (I tottaly agree >with it), and to Cliff for his suggestion. >Now I actualy understand how great this mailing list is, and that some >of it's members (mentioned above) are very kind people and proficient in >MA at the same time. >Does anyone have some expirience in combat against people from other MA, >especialy those that are using close-range style? How to keep the >distance from them, and is it better to try to use some technique if >they try to grab you, or to avoid them and then attack? Also, do you >simply move backwards (linear) or make some kind of circular movement? >Another thing; I'm only a beginner (I'll take my 7th geup test in 2-3 >weeks), and I'm very satisfied with the speed of my techniques, but I >need some advices how to speed them up a little more (some exercises or >anything that could help). > Mitar ------------------------------ From: "Rodney G. Graves" Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:56:15 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #127 Mitar, Don't feel like the lone ranger. Here in the San Francisco Bay Area (working in Santa Clara and living in Campbell) I have been unable to find a Hapkido Dojang within a 50 mile radius. V/R Rod At 04:53 PM 2/24/00 -0800, you wrote: >From: "Mitar" >Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 00:40:26 +0100 >Subject: the_dojang: From a new member > > Hi everyone! >I subscribed to The Dojang Digest only a couple of days ago, and I already >like it a lot. The only thing that is not so good are the e-mails about >the things not related to martial arts (e. g. feminism, politics,...). >If you are interested in these topics, try to subscribe some other mailing >list, not this one. You are a little bit boring. >Anyway, I recently started to practice TKD and I like it A LOT, but I'm >also very interested in Hapkido. I think that there are not any HKD clubs >in my country (Serbia), and I'm very disappointed. If anyone would be so >kind to write me something more about HKD (which techniques are used >except feet techniques - are there any kind of grappling, joint-locks, >sweepings, elbow and knees' strikes, etc.; what are the main similarities >and differences between TKD and HKD,...). If there has been a lot >of discussion on this topic on The Dojang Digest, you can send it to my >own e-mail, or if you think this would be interesting to anyone else, >send it to The Dojang. Also, if anyone knows anything about HKD clubs in >Serbia (I'm not optimistic about this one but it's worth trying, please >send it). I don't inquire about HKD this much because I want to start to >practice it right now (I've read from The Dojang Digest that it's not >recommended to practice two MA at once - at least before you're 1st or >2nd DAN in one), but as I said, because I'm very interested in it. >Another thing; I've watched a few Ultimate Fight matches (I think most >of you know what it is), and I've seen that mainly fighters who are >experts in "close-range" MA (Jiu-jitsu, grappling,...) win against those >who are from the world of "punching and kicking" (kick-box, TKD, HKD, >Karate,...). What do you think about this? Does anyone have some >expirience or knows how to approach the fight when you are in situation >like this? How to keep the distance between you and your opponent? >Please don't think that I am preparing to participate the Ultimate Fight, >I just want to know this. >I hope this hasn't been too long; I'll keep it shorter in the future. > >Kyun Ye to you all. > > Mitar ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 08:54:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #131 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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