From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #138 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 1 March 2000 Vol 07 : Num 138 In this issue: the_dojang: Sport TKD calendar the_dojang: demo/open house the_dojang: 12th Int'l Hapkido Seminar, aka West Hapkido Seminar, aka USKMAF Seminar the_dojang: Re: Grandmaster's visit to Korea=plus the ambiance of Pusan the_dojang: Re: Hapkido Belts in Korea the_dojang: 9 gup and four colors for belts the_dojang: Stan Wojcoski 2nd Gup Grading the_dojang: Re: Hartford CT Tournament the_dojang: Colored belts in Hapkido [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. ~800 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, CA Taekwondo, and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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TKD Champs June Berkeley, California 7th South American Games Cordoba, Argentina 2003 14th Pan American Games Santo Domingo, Dominican Rep ------------------------------ From: BTBEACH@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 22:01:45 EST Subject: the_dojang: demo/open house To all those in the DC area Jin Pal Hapkido is having a demo/open house Saturday, March 4, at noon. There will be about an hour demo including cane techniques and a short seminar by Grandmaster Jin Pal Kim. Open to all and free. Hope to see you. The address is 114010 Rockville Pike, Rockville Md. (across from white Flint Mall inside the Park Inn). For more Info Call (301) 881-8888 or you can E-mail me. Brian Beach Btbeach@aol.com ------------------------------ From: MichaelChoi@aol.com Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:09:30 EST Subject: the_dojang: 12th Int'l Hapkido Seminar, aka West Hapkido Seminar, aka USKMAF Seminar Finally, I write my report on the seminar. First of all, you get the maximum bang on your bucks with this seminar. If you register early (like I did), it's 65 US dollars for three days of excellent instruction of not only Grandmaster JR West's students, but others excellent instructors, such as Master Geoff Booth of Australia (current student of Grandmaster Ji, Han Jae), Master Jim Nichols of Hapkido SunMooKwan, and Master Jere Hilland of Hapkidojang South. The seminar is filled with syrupy sweet Southern hospitality. Once your at the seminar, you're family. As a New Yorker, it almost drove me nuts! But what's life without a little variety? After checking into the hotel and lunch, I went to the seminar location, US Korean Martial Arts Federation (USKMAF) headquarters to meet Grandmaster JR West. What a pleasure to meet him and what a tall guy! He gave me a tour of his school and we also conversed on hapkido history, philosophy, and theory. I also "hung out" with Master Booth and Master Borucki before the seminar. We watched the 4 tape series on Hapkido from the Korea Hapkido Federation and Alain Buresse's Hapkido video. Now, for the seminar, the instruction was excellent. I can only comment on the sessions that I took. I'll comment on Friday first. Master Jere Hilland is definitely an expert on techniques from danjon and on upsetting balance. He showed how any attack from behind can be converted to a frontal technique. He executed with such flawlessness and ease, and he also had a smile on his face. Master Borucki demonstrated one handed techniques, material that was new for me, and I really appreciated it. Special recognition goes to Master Joe Nichols of Hapkido Sunmookwan in NY/NJ. He had very serious health problems, yet he still came to teach, share, and learn. Although I did not take his yudo seminar, I did catch glimpses and his technique is excellent. I credit him for his dedication as he came despite his health problems. On Saturday, first was the demonstration. My favorites were Master Rick Ott and Master Allison. Master Ott demonstrated a beautiful Bong Sool (staff) form that both GM West and he created. I liked Master Allison's demonstration as it was very exciting. He executed techniques with speed, excitement, and good kiap yelling. The only weakness was that his attackers were smaller than him. His partners were excellent with their breakfalls, jump falls/flip-falls (aka hoi jeon nak bup). I also awed Mrs. Master West (try saying that 5 times) demonstration. GM West introduced me to her and talked from time to time. She is so friendly and nice, but when she is on the mat, she is incredible and vicious. Wow! No wonder everybody says she's the toughest Hapkido woman around! On both Friday and Saturday, GM West promoted several USKMAF members, including Master Allison, Master Hilland, Master Joe Borucki, Mr. Chris from MD, and Master Nichols (I think). They all deserved their promotions. I proceeded to "volunteer" myself to be Master G. Booth's victim for his seminar. Call me crazy, but I think one of the best way to learn technique is to be the fall guy. I said, "you looking for a volunteer, aren't you." G. Booth nodded. I said, "I just volunteered myself." He said, "OK." His seminar was the defences (Australian spelling) against hook punches. I loved it! He took me down with the pressure point under the jaw and all sorts of joint locks and throws. After that I proceeded to take instruction under GM West on speed takedowns and counter techniques. These are black belt techniques and I am grateful for learning them. I just received my first dan from MooYeKwan and this was a great way to move on. Another special guest instructor was Master Mike Reed from Han Mu DoJu Dr. He Young Kimm. He taught on demonstration, giving us tips on do's and don'ts for a successful hapkido exhibition accompanied with humorous examples. One quote, "this technique is very painful. Now, it's not since I'm not taking the fall." (You had to be there.) During the same time slot, Master Mrs. Renee West was giving a seminar on Women Self-defense Issues, but it was for women only. (Sorry, I have no clue what happened. It's women only and do you think I would mess with Master Mrs. West? Wrong!) After that Master Reed taught on special Ki exercises with humorous anecdotes from his lessons with DoJu Dr. Kimm. Sunday, I took one session with Master Allison on short stick techniques. I really like his 8 techniques for dan-bong against dan-bong. Very effective, very hapkido. I would say more, but this posting is already too long. (Sorry, Ray.) In closing, let me warn everyone beforehand, get used to buffets! GM West arranges for buffet houses to stay open for dinner after each day of training. I was trying to practice physically intensive Hapkido techniques, but they kept stuffing me! On Saturday, I said, "You guys are killing me! I never had so much buffet in my life!" Mike Reed responded, "You sure don't like your having any problems now" as I was finishing my third plate. "Here, have some of this beautiful beef with the delicious sauce." I'm thinking, "Oi Yoi Yoi" (New York slang). Then Mrs. West chimed, "you've got have some of the banana pudding. That can't be all. Why don't you grab the peach cobbler as well." Sheesh! I want everybody to know, every hapkido person should come to this seminar at least one, and the more times the better. Why? Not only is the instruction excellent, but also everyone is so friendly, with a spirit of camaraderie and a willingness to share with each other. A lot of credit also goes to GM West for providing such an environment and for his dedication to Hapkido for almost/over 30 years. He has also taken many Hapkido American instructors who were taken advantage of by Korean masters. He deserves recognition for that as well. 'Nuff said, Michael Choi ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 20:54:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Grandmaster's visit to Korea=plus the ambiance of Pusan Jeff: I would like to know more about GM In Hyuk Suh's visit to Pusan. Who is traveling with him ? The closed club was called the Legion. Also, a few Russian Women and fisherman would show up. They had a great floor show on Friday and Saturday nights. The Chicken Shack was a little hole in the wall but located right on the corner and across the street from Camp Hialeah. It was about 1/2 block from the Dallas Club. Great place for late night snacks after too much Soju. It reminded me of a great location and a dumpy place but they had to be hauling in the cash. Similar to the small hole in the wall shops in Chicago. If you recall Saturday Night Live with the "Cheeseburger, Pepsi, Chips" routine with Bill Murray and Belushi, it emanated out of the eatery's in Chicago. I would walk across from the Loyola Law School and walk into a greasy joint. I would yell out "I'll have a number one." A number one was hamburger and chips. A number two was a Cheesburger and Chips. A number three was a polish sausage and chips. So on and So on. I had this thought. In Osan AB area, and right outside the gate there are many clubs, restaurants, clothes shops, and stores. In contrast, in Pusan, you only had the Dallas and Legion Club, and a handful of clothing shops out of the rear of the Camp Hialeah Base. I would have thought u had a better selection ? I trained at a Dojang at Dong Dae Shin Dong, Pusan. I would walk from the Camp Hialeah area, through the markets, and grab a train to the Dojang. Must tell you that the ambiance and colorful aromas (from the outdoor food carts) and people are what I enjoyed. There is nothing like it here in the U.S. I was into the late night scene in New York City in my early days. In Korea, they don't start partying until 11 pm. Everyone is out all night and it is safe. I miss that part of Korea, i.e., people, markets, restaurants, and close friends. Thanks, Ken McD... - --- Jeff Harrison wrote: > On 29 Feb 00, at 8:53, Ken McDonough wrote: > > > > > Used to live there. Is the Dallas Club and Chicken Shack still there. > > > > McD... > > Uhhh.....hmmm... well... Let's see... > I very seldom get anywhere near Camp Hialeah, but as I recall, the > Dallas Club moved down the street a bit. The other club that was > there (i forget its name) is gone. Chicken Shack? Never heard of it. > Is it a little hole-in-the-wall place the soldiers go? > > -Jeff H. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 01:48:10 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: Hapkido Belts in Korea My experiences in Korea are the same as Michael Choi pointed out. Belts went White, yellow, green, green, blue, blue, red, red, red, black, black. The duplicates are because when you tested and advanced gup rank, at some levels the belt did not change. There were no stripes either, so if a person had a red belt on, you would not know if that person was a 3rd, 2nd or 1st gup. You can tell if you see what techniques the person is working on for their next test though. The double black is because of the dan-bo rank. You were a black belt, but still don't have a certificate. Like Michael pointed out, there were no gup certificates. You were just given the next color belt, and if the test you took was one where the belt color didn't change, then you didn't get anything. (except when you began to learn the new techniques for the next test) Dan certificates from the KHF in Seoul were the only certificates given. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese http://members.aol.com/aburrese/ ------------------------------ From: Kim Jones Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:50:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: 9 gup and four colors for belts From: "Rodney G. Graves" Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:15:42 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #135 As an aside, and for referrence, all of the Hapkido Dojang I encountered in Korea had 9 gup, but only four belts (white, yellow, blue, red). My Sabum added brown belt as a black belt candidate indicator. *snipppppppppppppppppppp* This sort of system is also prevalent in Taekwondo dojang in Korea as well. My Sabumnim uses only white, yellow, blue, and red for the color belts along with only 9 gup. 'Course, dan testing is handled through Kukkiwon...sometimes he'll test a particularly miniscule group of people at the Hannam Village gym (he is pal-dan [8th degree] after all), but the majority of testing is handled at Kukkiwon. My classmates who take TKD at the high school on base say that white, yellow, green, blue, red, and brown belts are used. The HKD class uses white, yellow, green, blue and red belts (my former HKD sabumnim still teaches there). I think the main reason for using so many colors is like a reward system with tangible results because there are middle school kids taking these martial arts as their Physical Education class (too bad I couldn't use TKD to get my P.E. credit to graduate...how come it sufficed as my 8th grade P.E. credit?!?) or as an elective. The Youth Services also offers TKD and HKD in the evenings for the lil' tykes, and they use at least 5 belt colors as well to keep their interest and confidence up. *waits for April 23rd to arrive...* ===== ~~Kim Jones *ladytimberland@yahoo.com* ICQ: 52828008 AOL: Lady Timberland "I've kept the rain falling down on me all the time." ~Roxette, "The Rain" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Nick McKenna Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:50:50 -0000 Subject: the_dojang: Stan Wojcoski 2nd Gup Grading Dear All > PS. I am testing for 2nd Gup (brown) this weekend. Shall we restart the > butterflies thread? Apologies for moving into the "butterflies thread" area, but I thought I'd share my recent experience. I was fortunate enough to double grade to 5th gup at my last grading. I was confident for the grading (which went well enough). However, I found that at my next class I was really nervous about double grading to this level. Although it's not true, I thought that everyone was watching me expecting me to be an expert martial artist etc. I was nervous of the standard that I thought everyone would expect from me. Am I just wierd or has anyone else ever had an experience like this? Best Of luck for the grading, Stan! Tang Soo! Nick. ------------------------------ From: "Tracey Johnson" Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:06:54 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Hartford CT Tournament The tournament is a KATU- ITF event. Since I am new to ITF I am not sure that others can compete, but my guess is not....Unless you want to compete by the ITF rules. The tournament is Sunday April 2 at Bulkeley High School, 300 Wethersfield Ave. tel 860-649-9696 www.katu-itf.com I hope this helps, Tracey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: HKDTodd@aol.com Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:28:28 EST Subject: the_dojang: Colored belts in Hapkido My GM issues keub certificates ( which are the best I have seen so far) for each belt for us here in the USA but in Korea they do not partially I think because it generally takes them less time to achieve 1st dan (usually 6 days per week of training) and until you are a dan holder you are not taken to seriously. Todd Korea Jung Ki Hapkido & Guhapdo Assc. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 06:30:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #138 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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