From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #165 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 13 March 2000 Vol 07 : Num 165 In this issue: the_dojang: Olympic Qualification Tournament Results the_dojang: Chon Ji Kihaps the_dojang: Soo Bahk Do the_dojang: RE: Ann-Marie's jumps the_dojang: Re: chon-ji kihap the_dojang: Wha, Won, Yu the_dojang: Re: Jumpin over people=got me envious; just a few musings [none] the_dojang: tournament bracketing software the_dojang: Re: Jumpin over people versus low line level kicks [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 800+ members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gregg London Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:04:48 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Olympic Qualification Tournament Results Good Day, (Almost) Complete Results from Colorado Springs this past weekend: Consolidated Flyweight 1. Peter Kim 2. Juan Moreno 3. Jody Horn Consolidated Flyweight 1. Esther Kim 2. Sabrina Alaquinez 3. Jenacyn Nicholson Consolidated Featherweight 1. Jason Han 2. Guillermo Mosquera 3. Todd Phillips Consolidated Welterweight 1. Kelly Thorpe 2. Elizabeth Mohammed 3. Unknown Best wishes, Gregg London - -- Gregg London Digital Engineer http://www.glondon.com ------------------------------ From: "Silke Schulz" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:19:31 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Chon Ji Kihaps Donna wrote: >Silke, I am just a little confused here. In our chun-ji we >have two kihaps. One at the beginning and one at the end. >Are your kihaps are different or is this a typeo? No, it's not a typo. And based on Piotr's post, there do seem to be some variations on where the kihaps are practiced. The Complete Book of Taekwondo Forms by Keith Yates has the kihaps at moves 8 and 19, which is different again. Does anyone know where the kihaps are in General Choi's book? Silke ------------------------------ From: Patrick Russell Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:47:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Soo Bahk Do I am glad to see that some people actually know something about SBDMDK. In response to YMCATKD@aol.com's message, the techniques of Soo Bahk Do come from many arts. I believe most techniques come from Korean backgrounds, but there are Okinawan and Chinese influences. The founder of SBD is GM Hwang Kee. Respectfully Submitted, Pat __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Atchinson, Kerry M" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:03:11 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Ann-Marie's jumps > From: Ann-Marie White > Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 14:16:47 -0500 > Subject: the_dojang: hang time > > Hello everyone: > > I'm a yellow belt in Tae Kwon Do (tho' hopefully tomorrow I'll become a > green stripe... we find out the results of our promotions test then). > I'm > having problems with my jump kicks and my jumping spinning kicks. > Thanks, > > Ann-Marie > The responses regarding training techniques to help with the jumps seem like good ones. ( it wouldn't hurt me to do some more myself :) ) But I don't think anyone mentioned that jumping spin kicks are NOT a yellow-belt technique. It's great when a lower gup has the talent and desire to perform advanced techniques, but hey, there's no hurry. Build a solid foundation first and those really cool jumping-spinning-leaping-flying acrobatics will fall into place. Providing, of course, that your not an old fart like me or Ken McD. ;) ( sorry Ken ) Regarding the head shots... great thing in class or tournament, not so good against a real attacker. The knees and groin are better bets. Pil Seung! Kerry WTF TKD ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:21:37 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: chon-ji kihap In a message dated 03/13/2000 9:00:33 AM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Silke, I am just a little confused here. In our chun-ji we have two kihaps. One at the beginning and one at the end. Are your kihaps are different or is this a typeo? Donna >> and in our chon-ji...its only at the end. melinda ChunjiDo -pe rsonal homepage http://hometown.aol.com/chunjido/homehtmlindex.html Chajonshim Martial Arts Supply - business page http://hometown.aol.com/chajonshim/ma4sale.html Looking for enlightenment is like looking for a flashlight, when all you need the flashlight for is to find the flashlight. ------------------------------ From: HKDTodd@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:42:27 EST Subject: the_dojang: Wha, Won, Yu In a message dated 3/13/00 10:00:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Yu" Also known as the water principle,The Next principle is that of"Wan" also Known as the circle Theory.The last but not the least of the theory's is the Theory of "Hwa" >> My GM teaches Wha - Harmony or not resisting your opponents energy or motion. Won - Completeness or circular energy or circle Yu - Dynamic or changing or flowing It is interesting to see how different people interpret and understand these principles. One thing that is for sure Hapkido is not Hapkido without them. Todd ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:02:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Jumpin over people=got me envious; just a few musings Donna, Illona, and Dave: Thanks for the responses to my rambling thoughts on this subject. I want to let readers know that I am not disrespecting the ability to do the type of kicks mentioned. In fact, I admire the ability to do it. But, I also know my limitations. Often people are afraid to mention certain things since they believe they are the only ones thinking "Hey, how in the world at age _____, am I gonna do that jumpin' over 4 guys/ladies routine." So, they don't mention it. Then they walk around mumbling to themselves feeling insecure. It is good to have forums like this since now I know there are several people out there who have the same thoughts. They may not have expressed them previously. ...remember that 98 % of the things I write have a little tongue in cheek.Actually, a lot of tongue in cheek. But I will be the first to admit that I need lots of help. In fact, yesterday people were avoiding me since I was walking around downtown talking to myself. I was yelling "I can't jump over 5 people and break boards...I can't aero kick...what is wrong with me." Bye (for now), Ken McD... > I was told jumping kicks were not a requirement. I have no > desire to doing flying or jumping kicks anyway. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:51:09 GMT Subject: [none] < Is this different from the Chang Han Ryu forms practiced by the ITF? Chris, I hope this answers your question. Silke Schulz>> Silke, Thanks for the information. The version of Chon Ji that you described is the same that I do, although the kihaps are different. The version of this pattern, and a couple of the others that I saw, that this gentleman did were VERY different. Ex.: His Chon Ji went like this: 1. Left low block 2. Right front kick 3. Step into rt. walking stance w/left reverse punch. 4. Right punch 5. Turn and right low block 6. Left front kick 7. Step into left walking stancew/right reverse punch. 8. Left punch 9. Pivot left forming a sitting (horseback) stance w/left low block. 10. Step into right walking stance w/right punch. 11. Step into left walking stance w/left punch. etc., etc. Now the thing I found odd was that the who pattern was different and yet the name was the same. The diagram was changed from a + to an I and there were well over twice as many techniques in this pattern than the original. Does this sound like the patterns you did before the change over? Taekwon, Chris "Every experience of beauty points to infinity." Hans Urs von Balthasar ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Dave Steffen Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:58:41 -0700 (MST) Subject: the_dojang: tournament bracketing software Hi folks, Anybody know of any free / open-sourced software out there for generating tournament brackets? I'm seriously thinking about starting such a project, but I'd prefer not to re-invent the wheel. Thanks! - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Steffen Wave after wave will flow with the tide Dept. of Physics And bury the world as it does Colorado State University Tide after tide will flow and recede steffend@lamar.colostate.edu Leaving life to go on as it was... - Peart / RUSH "The reason that our people suffer in this way.... is that our ancestors failed to rule wisely". -General Choi, Hong Hi ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:21:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Jumpin over people versus low line level kicks Leaving out the humor this time. It occurs to me that practicing "low line level kicks" seems to make more sense for the average martial artist. If you practice kicks to the knees, legs, shins, and ankles, you would be doing yourself a favor at least from a self-defense posture. You can attack X's vulnerable parts while simultaneously keeping your balance. Makes sense to me. As someone previously noted, in a real world situation what do you think would be better: a. One of those fancy smancy high kicks, or: b. A low line level kick to X's knee, shin, or thigh ? If you click on b above, then why practice the aero kicks ? Again, no slam on other styles or training. Just thinking over practical stuff. Ken McD... > ChunjiDo@aol.com wrote: > . > > > > i'm 29 and i keep wonderin how long i'll be able to keep this stuff up. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:05:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #165 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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