From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #166 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 13 March 2000 Vol 07 : Num 166 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: Chun-ji kihap Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #165 the_dojang: Re : tournament bracketing software the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #165 the_dojang: Re: chon-ji kihap the_dojang: re: Chonji the_dojang: RE: Chon-Ji Yell the_dojang: Re: tourney software [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 800+ members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert Martin Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:15:39 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Chun-ji kihap In the ITF at the end of a pattern we use the patterns name for the kihap. This is the only place where a kihap occurs. Hopes this helps Bob Martin ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:43:04 PST Subject: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #165 > Anybody know of any free / open-sourced software out there for > generating tournament brackets? I'm seriously thinking about > starting such a project, but I'd prefer not to re-invent the wheel. From an old issue... From: GntlWarior@aol.com Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:06:40 -0500 (EST) Well... after a weeee bit of hacking... i have a reasonable version of a program to generate brackets for tournaments.... it runs under windows 95... the program will print out brackets... generate buys based on a seeded bracket... label the seed number of the brackets... and will calculate the time a division will take to run given the rounds, rest time, time between matches, rings, etc... if anyone would like a copy let me know... it is my contribution to the list and payment for all the wisdom i have recieved here.... if anyone has a place i could move the file so people could download it that would be great.. .otherwise i will mail it out to those who ask... it comes in 2 vesions .. for those of you who have other visual basic programs the small version is 35k... for those of you who need the whole thing it is about 1Meg... let me know ... Jay Ferguson Boston ------------------------------ From: "Karel van der Walt" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:41:26 +0200 Subject: the_dojang: Re : tournament bracketing software I have a Delphi/Access/Crystal reports program. Franco Coded it in 2 evenings flat. Ok I dsigned the db and the querries. In practice it takes too long to enter the names on one workstation but you can keep the entrants and just tick them for every new tournament. We have a VB scoring systems that nobody would go without. That one has a long story to it - the card clashes with COM3 so you mangle your disk in the installation if the card is inserted before the installation, etc. If you have a day or two I will dig up the source and some kind of installation instruction. Given unto the public domain etc - I do not know about Crystal though... Right now it is 23:25 and the Rotties must wonder what happened to me. C k ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:31:22 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #165 In a message dated 3/13/00 1:10:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << But I don't think anyone mentioned that jumping spin kicks are NOT a yellow-belt technique. >> Not at our school, either. We don't even have them do spin kicks till Orange belt (one after yellow). Jump Spin Kicks are saved for the advanced belts ... the lower belts have tons of basics to learn first and lots of other types of kicks to practice. Illona ------------------------------ From: Dave Steffen Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:48:20 -0700 (MST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: chon-ji kihap > Does anyone know where the kihaps are in General Choi's book? Yes... nowhere. We no longer kihap in forms - it's been subsumed by the the breathing pattern we use with the sine wave. However, we _used_ to kihap on the first and last moves of each pattern. However, I don't know how standard this was, because I've heard other "old-timers" teach kihaps on different moves. But, again, there are no "standard" placed to kihap, as we no longer use them very much. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Steffen Wave after wave will flow with the tide Dept. of Physics And bury the world as it does Colorado State University Tide after tide will flow and recede steffend@lamar.colostate.edu Leaving life to go on as it was... - Peart / RUSH "The reason that our people suffer in this way.... is that our ancestors failed to rule wisely". -General Choi, Hong Hi ------------------------------ From: Andrew Pratt Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:03:24 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: re: Chonji >> From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:51:09 GMT Subject: [none] Thanks for the information. The version of Chon Ji that you described is the same that I do, although the kihaps are different. The version of this pattern, and a couple of the others that I saw, that this gentleman did were VERY different. Ex.: His Chon Ji went like this: 1. Left low block 2. Right front kick 3. Step into rt. walking stance w/left reverse punch. 4. Right punch 5. Turn and right low block 6. Left front kick 7. Step into left walking stancew/right reverse punch. 8. Left punch 9. Pivot left forming a sitting (horseback) stance w/left low block. 10. Step into right walking stance w/right punch. 11. Step into left walking stance w/left punch. etc., etc. Now the thing I found odd was that the who pattern was different and yet the name was the same. The diagram was changed from a + to an I and there were well over twice as many techniques in this pattern than the original. Does this sound like the patterns you did before the change over? << This sort of reads like a WTF pattern. The 'I' form is the basis for all of the Taeguks. Could the above be a variation on a Taeguk? Another possibility is that it is a TSD pattern(??) Andrew ------------------------------ From: "StarrAvis" Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:38:53 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Chon-Ji Yell There is only one and it is on the 17th movement. I don't trust Yates Form book as there are to many mistakes present. George Petrotta http://www.martialarts2000.com ------------------------------ From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:47:30 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: tourney software In a message dated 03/13/2000 3:09:37 PM Central Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Hi folks, Anybody know of any free / open-sourced software out there for generating tournament brackets? I'm seriously thinking about starting such a project, but I'd prefer not to re-invent the wheel. Thanks! >> yes! and wouldnt you know, my computer crashed and i lost it. i believe it's jay warwick who has one. jay? or is it jay ferguson? d'oh! melinda ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:57:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #166 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.