From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #177 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 16 March 2000 Vol 07 : Num 177 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #176 Re: the_dojang: Denver hapkido schools... the_dojang: Fw: Email from a Japanese Sword Maker the_dojang: Tang Soo Do the_dojang: Fw: HapKiDo, AiKiDo: Hard, Soft the_dojang: Re: USTU politics [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 800+ members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Will Lowe Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 14:55:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #176 > you describe. And I have developed the chamber so that it is just > inches. But those inches still take time and are impractical in my > opinion. I don't think I suspect, that in "real life" (on the street), if you have to block, you've already lost. :) One of my instructors often suggests that blocking is relatively pointless; _move_ out of the way ... blocking a kick or punch thrown by someone who really means it is likely to just break your arm. I've never been in a real, seriously-trying-to-hurt-someone street fight, so I don't have a lot of experience in this department. Will - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- | harpo@udel.edu lowe@cis.udel.edu lowe@debian.org lowe@asel.udel.edu | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | | PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey | - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 12:29:46 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: Denver hapkido schools... > Ray said: > > How about Walter Chipley in Arvada? Walt is affiliated with JR West. > > Can you give more info about Mr. Chipley? I didn't know of many other > hapkido teachers in the Denver area. He is just about to open a new dojang in the area, maybe it is open by now. I've just 'met' Walt on the phone, Master West should have much more info. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "hkdhal" Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 16:35:43 -0800 Subject: the_dojang: Fw: Email from a Japanese Sword Maker I thought this would be of some interest to the followers of the "way" - ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike McCarty To: Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2000 4:55 AM Subject: Email from a Japanese Sword Maker > Excuse me for your busy time. > My name is Koji Sato that works in Nikkei Planning Co.,Ltd. > > > It is because that I thought to send e-mail to want you to > know the Japanese sword dealt with with us today. > Then I extracted your e-mail address from website automatically. > > If you are interested in one, please reply to me. > > I will send you photographs of this sword in your reply, > because I am engaged in making website of our sword at present. > > The following is the explanation of this sword. > Read it by all means. > > > Style and Representation > > 1. a kind of style > We have only one style in the price of 150,000 yen. > We have in stock about 2,500 swords, these range from old to new. > We change stocks frequently, therefore we are unable to produce a catalog > of our swords. > We can not sell these swords at the price of 150,000 yen. > The price of the 150,000 yen sword is special. > > 2. a kind of jigane > Japanese swords have been made in A, B, C, D, E, F or G for 1,000 years. > They are various materials used in making different types of Japanese > swords. > A.tamahagane > B.houchoutetsu oroshi > C.zuku oroshi > D.tekkouseki oroshi > E.mochitetsu oroshi > F.furutetsu oroshi > G.nanbantetsu oroshi > Oroshi changes B, C, D, E, F or G into quality fitting Japanese swords. > Our company swords are chosen from this list of materials, but it has > always been an industrial secret. > > 3. a kind of tsukurikomi > A.sunobe > B.koubuse > C.gyaku-koubuse > D.sanmai > E.orikaeshi-sanmai > F.toushiba-sanmai > G.sashiba > Just one of the ways in which our swords are made. > How this is achieved also remains confidential. > Our swords are forged and made by hand. > When this has been achieved they are capable of cutting maki-wara etc. > > 4. yakiire > Yakiire is gunomemidare and koniedeki. > > 5.togi (polishing) of hamon > Togi (polishing) puts a heavy stress on that part. > The hamon of the blade is not acid edged. > The hamon of the sword is hair-line almost uchigumori. > > 6. swordsmith > There may be many people who will wish to purchase our low-priced Japanese > swords. > The law in Japan prohibits each swordsmith from making more than 24 swords a > year. > Therefore, to accommodate many clients, I have a company workshop in China. > The swords, design, and craftmanship are the same. > There is no difference between swords made in Japan or China. > The swords signature is "Fuku". > It is named after the master swordsmith "Fukutsugu" who designed and forged > this sword. (Ritsuo yanagita's sigunature is Fukutsugu) > Then he taught his technical knowledge to all his deshi in our company. > > 7. handle > Handle is made of hou-tree. > On the handle we put a sheet of gousei-same, then we wind on a strap of > leather around it. (This is called kawa tsukamaki.) > > 8. import duties and taxes > These vary from country to country, it is always best that the buyer obtains > this information. > > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ > > Nikkei Planning Co.,Ltd. > Japanese Sword Seller Department > Dir.Koji Sato > e-mail:samurai@yj8.so-net.ne.jp > e-mail:samurai@coo.net > > _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ From: Morgan Kochel Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:33:25 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Tang Soo Do Tink wrote: > To Morgan: > > Aikido is the Japanese version of Hapkido. Remember that Korea was > under Japanese control for 40 years. Many of the techniques will be similar > as is the terminology. Thanks for clarifying! I was interested in Aikido, and I just found out my teacher also teaches Hapkido -- I don't have to leave now! :-) > Morgan: It seems you have studied many different styles. How old > were you when you started training? In my early 20s. > Why did you train in so many styles? I love to do martial arts, regardless of style. I hadn't found one at the time that I felt comfortable enough to stick with until the black belt level. I have now, with TSD. > What ranks did you receive in each? I don't really like to talk about "ranks", as such. I have a hard time with the American concept of needing belts to feel like one is progressing. (And I'm American!) I like to look at is more as a Way of life rather than an accomplishment. I study it along the lines of the Way of the Warrior rather than as a sport. I will say that Wing Chun is the art I achieved the highest belt in. I really enjoyed that art. The only reason I stopped was because I moved out of state and could not find Wing Chun teachers in this new area. > What have you liked/disliked about the > styles in which you trained?...Sorry for all the questions, just very > curious. I honestly liked them all. I did take Japanese Karate for a time, and for lack of a better term, thought it to be a bit "overkill". I'm NOT knocking Karate, I'm just saying that it didn't fit my personality. I love the Kung Fu arts the most because they're very graceful and catlike. I would like to study Tiger Style Kung Fu, but I've not yet had the opportunity. For now, I'm focused with TSD. I have a wonderful teacher and I'm finding it to be very rewarding. Pilseung! Morgan ------------------------------ From: "Jere R. Hilland" Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:19:48 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Fw: HapKiDo, AiKiDo: Hard, Soft I must confess that I would not call Master West's technique soft, specifically as related to hapkido. His technique is in the detail. As a lower dan I was concerned about the hard and soft issue. But now, I really can't. My center and ki is the focus of my technique and strength, regardless of whether it is a jumping kick or a 'soft' throw. I have been told that my technique is the same now, regardless if is a 'soft' throw, or a 'hard' kick. This I think is good... I have therefore made the art my own. Maybe. But nevertheless, it is a never ending process. My hapkido is not the same as others. No one's is. That is true in any art with any experienced practicioner. Master West's experience includes using his hapkido in actual combat. It really works, otherwise he would not be here posting. My experience is different. There is nothing wrong with that, but it is great to train with one who really knows his technique that well. My point is that my center, my ki, the detail of my basic motion is the focus of my training now. The two, the um and the yang (the hard and the soft) are inside one circle. Of course all of this post is my opinion and is only based on my experience. My hapkido reflects the other arts I have studied, who I studied hapkido under, my character, etc. Jere http://homepages.go.com/~jrhilland/HapkiDojang.html http://wwp.mirabilis.com/6423263 ------------------------------ From: CBAUGHN@aol.com Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:21:36 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: USTU politics JSaportajr@aol.com wrote: << I am the one who is not planning to renew my membership. I am just a run of the mill member and a bystander in all the politics. >> You are only a run-of-the-mill member if you choose to be so. Willing hands and hearts are what will make the changes you wish to see. Ronda gave most excellent advice (and she's made it work!) -- learn the rules, get involved, and you can help insure that everyone plays by the rules. You can see wonderful changes in very little time. Sally cbaughn@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 17:34:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #177 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.