From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #191 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Fri, 24 March 2000 Vol 07 : Num 191 In this issue: the_dojang: Shendo Aikijitsu the_dojang: women's only dojangs the_dojang: women instructors the_dojang: more on women instructors the_dojang: RE: BB promotion Re: the_dojang: women instructors [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 800+ members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HKDTodd@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:21:27 EST Subject: the_dojang: Shendo Aikijitsu I was just wondering who was your teacher and how long have you been involved with Aikijitsu? Todd ------------------------------ From: Laura Kamienski Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:28:53 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: women's only dojangs From: ChunjiDo@aol.com Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:44:02 EST Subject: the_dojang: Re: women only In a message dated 3/24/00 6:29:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I think that women's only m.a. classes and schools >> i think women's only classes would be an excellent ideer. a women's only school, however, is a lawsuit waiting to happen, IMHO. melinda Lots of them exist....:^) Laura - -- lkamiens@ptd.net lkamnski@bucknell.edu http://home.switchboard.com/LKamienski ____________________________________________________ "Why don't you give me a call when you decide you are willing to fight; for what you think is real, for what you think is right." Ani DiFranco ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Laura Kamienski Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:34:42 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: women instructors << I have a question for you. You say that you would not want a male student who does not want to learn from a female instructor, and that it reflects bad upon them, but you support a female who would not want to learn from a male instructor(your point about a female only class). How are these two things different? Thank you, Chris>> No difference. I am fully supporting the male who doesn't want to learn from me. I'm telling him he'd be better elsewhere...and he would. Women's only classes are necessary because of the reality of pervasive violence against women in our society. Many women don't trust men enough to train with them or simply can't emotionally handle training with them. Female on male violence is not pervasive so similarities or generalities can not be made in reverse. Laura - -- lkamiens@ptd.net lkamnski@bucknell.edu http://home.switchboard.com/LKamienski ____________________________________________________ "Why don't you give me a call when you decide you are willing to fight; for what you think is real, for what you think is right." Ani DiFranco ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Laura Kamienski Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 17:44:24 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: more on women instructors Chris, Also, many women don't have a choice about whether or not to train under a man or woman. I don't know of any other female instructors in my geographical area and there are no women only schools....yet that is. ;^) When I decided to train, I had no choice but to train under a man. I was fortunate that my instructor is a very supportive man. Had he not been, I wouldn't have stayed there. Many female m.a.s are not as fortunate to have a supportive male m.a. teacher locally. Laura - -- lkamiens@ptd.net lkamnski@bucknell.edu http://home.switchboard.com/LKamienski ____________________________________________________ "Why don't you give me a call when you decide you are willing to fight; for what you think is real, for what you think is right." Ani DiFranco ____________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Ken Howard Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:47:41 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: RE: BB promotion Exit lurk mode.. Update: In 1998 my instructors were pushing me to test for my BB and I refused because I was not ready physically or mentally. The master agreed to let me decide when I would be ready to test.(I can be more stubborn/obstinate than a rock. My wife says I have as many brain cells as one.) In March last year I requested the testing and the next day I kicked the wrong 11 year old and rearranged my knee. Did you know it is not very comfortable to have your leg bend at a right angle forwards? I canceled my request at that point (so much for the idea of getting my belt before 50). I had the last surgery in November and was told I would be able to walk (not exactly what I wanted to hear). I was aiming at the possibility of testing in May or June of 2000. This past month I have spent most of my spare time (including class time) doing renovations on our new dojo. The head instructor told me day before yesterday some of the lower belts were to be tested on Thursday (last night) and he wanted me to be in attendance for it. I agreed and showed up. The testing was for me!! Allowances were made for my leg and my sleep deprivation. I did not demonstrate my nose block techniques or bleed excessively. I felt brain dead through the last couple of hours of it (maybe my wife is right about the brain cells). I now have my Belt and I will appreciate some time off work to rest/recover etc. I was told that a lot of my grading was done when I was in class and did not need the full testing. Pass the da dit jow, it's time to lurk in a quiet corner. Ken Howard ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:23:26 PST Subject: Re: the_dojang: women instructors > them. Female on male violence is not pervasive so similarities or > generalities can not be made in reverse. Actually it is common, not VERY common, but common. It is very seldom reported, which makes it seem not pervasive. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:11:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #191 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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