From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #234 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 10 April 2000 Vol 07 : Num 234 In this issue: the_dojang: HKD Forms the_dojang: Hard Won Wisdom the_dojang: In Search Of... Re: the_dojang: HKD Forms the_dojang: weapons sparring the_dojang: Hapkido Books... [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 800 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last four years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HwarangTSD@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:23:29 EDT Subject: the_dojang: HKD Forms Not to sound snippy, because that is not my intent. It is my understanding that Choi, Yong Sool did not include forms training. Particularly since he learned Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu from sokaku takeda, and they have no forms. If this is the case, when and who put forms in Hapkido? Was it a later addition by choi? or by someone else? We practice Jin Jun Kwan, and when I last spoke to KJN Yoon, last year about forms he indicated that there was no, at any point in time, forms in Korean Hapkido. Course I don't speak Korean and he doesn't speak English, so there may have been a miscommunication there. You know how it is when you tell someone something and then it gets back to you, completely different than when you first said it. Frank Clay KTMS US Representative ------------------------------ From: foxdragon@cuttingedge.net Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:50:09 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Hard Won Wisdom Alain Burrese sadly wrote: > > I hope this note finds you well. After talking to Paladin Press this week, > it has been determined that they will drop HARD WON WISDOM FROM THE SCHOOL OF > HARD KNOCKS. Paladin Press is indeed making a big mistake dropping this book from their catalog. I own this book myself and found it good reading. Alain's advice one time helped me in a situation. Which following it I came out on top. Alain, good luck in finding a new publisher and I look forwards to your seminar pamphlet so I can get one going in this area. Donna - -- Me and my shadow ------------------------------ From: JEREMYT@ATFI.COM (JeremyT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:11:43 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: In Search Of... Hello all. I am trying to locate my old instructor in the Baltimore or Baltimore City, MD area. His name is Arturo Gabriel Anderson. He was my TSD instructor, however he may be moving in the Filipino arts. If anyone knows where I might be able to find him I would appreciate any info. Jeremy ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:33:21 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: HKD Forms > Not to sound snippy, because that is not my intent. It is my understanding > that Choi, Yong Sool did not include forms training. Particularly since he > learned Daito Ryu Aikijujutsu from sokaku takeda, and they have no forms. If > this is the case, when and who put forms in Hapkido? Was it a later addition > by choi? or by someone else? Yes, by others. GM Choi's Yawara/Korean Aiki-JJ/Hapkido didn't include forms, but then Hapkido seems to be one of the early eclectic arts. You don't see high kicks, spinning kicks, Cane techniques, etc. in the Yawara that GM Choi taught, yet they are common in today's Hapkido. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Thayne_Coffman@trilogy.com Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:55:31 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: weapons sparring > San Francisco Modern Farang Mu Sul & Academy of Tae Kwon Do presents > > The 1st Annual Warrior Quest Martial Arts Championship > > Empty Hand Forms - Weapons Forms - Standup Sparring > > Grappling - Weapons Sparring So how is weapons sparring usually done? Are weapons padded, are the participants padded, or both? Are there special light-weight sparring staffs, or is it a normal jun bong? A long time ago, I had a (somewhat shady) instructor that talked about staff sparring in tournaments, and broken knuckles and noses, and special sparring staffs with metal rods inside to make yours heavier so you could snap other peoples' staffs. I'm wondering how much of that was reality and how much of it he had made up to impress little kids like me. Is there a staff vs. sword division, or are both people usually armed with the same weapons? ------------------------------ From: J Thomas Howard Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:03:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: the_dojang: Hapkido Books... I have a listing of various Hapkido books that I've found at: http://www.binary.net/thomcat/BookHapkido.shtml Of these, most I already own, and have written blurbs about. A couple I don't have yet, and there are some others that I have information about, but don't have written up yet. (Such as the KHF book, Master Park's book, and a couple of books written in German. Working on getting info on those put up on the page.) The books that are listed there are either easy to get through Amazon.com (Or Barnes and Noble, etc...) or I've listed contact info for the association or author that prints them. For Hapkidoists out there----any good Hapkido books (other than the KHF book, and Master [apologies, since that perhaps should be Grandmaster] Park's book) that you would suggest? Or not-necessarily-good Hapkido books that you have info about? Oh---that reminds me. The "Dochang Journal" books (vols one and two) ---I finally got copies of. Interesting ideas. Lot of interesting writing about a number of aspects other than techniques in them. The breakdown of techniques are useful as reference works. I'll note that as usual, unless you already know the technique, these books aren't much help, but they ARE good references to use as a refresher occasionally. Written for the curriculum specific to Midwest Hapkido, would still be useful for the general Hapkidoist. Thomas - ------------------------------------ thomcat@binary.net http://www.binary.net/thomcat/ "If you aren't modeling what you are teaching then you are teaching something else." ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #234 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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