From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #317 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sat, 6 May 2000 Vol 07 : Num 317 In this issue: the_dojang: Korean language quibbles the_dojang: Im Happy :) the_dojang: whoops... the_dojang: Dan promotions the_dojang: NAHA the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #314 the_dojang: California State Games ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 960 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: burdickd Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 20:35:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: the_dojang: Korean language quibbles I had a couple quibbles with some of the recent comments. First, someone mentioned that there was no difference in Korean between federation, association, and union, etc. I'm not sure there's much of a practical difference between them in English either, but certainly there is difference in the terminology. federation yonmaeng union yonmaeng OR hwe (the translation for the US AAU given in Jeong-rok Kim's _T'aekwondo Kyobon_ is "Miguk Ch'eyok Hwe," which loses something in the translation) association hyob hwe organization kigu committee wiwonhwe council wiwonhwe Secondly, someone mentioned that "qinna" or "chinna", the Chinese skill of jointlocking, is spelled "yusul" (yoo sool) in Korean. That's not so. I checked Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming's translation of qinna and it is "grab control." Looking up the Japanese version yields something closer to "captive capture" or more loosely, "prisoner holding techniques." In Korean, the "qin" seems to be the same as "p'olo" while the "na" is made up of the radicals for "hap" and "sul" making this p'olohapsul, unless I've missed a direct Korean translation for "na," which is certainly possible. Has anyone else looked this stuff up? Yours in the arts, Dr. Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: "kadin goldberg" Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 21:43:53 MDT Subject: the_dojang: Im Happy :) I tell ya what... everything that i have wanted to do forever i am not taking some action and i am very happy :) I am taking guitar lessons tomarrow and im going to start taking tae kwon do either monday or next friday. Just thought someone might wanna know :) - ---kadin ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "kadin goldberg" Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 21:46:43 MDT Subject: the_dojang: whoops... lol, right when i sent my last message in i saw that i put "not" instead of "now" and made it sound very stupid ;) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Moja Kwan - C. Richards" Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:24:09 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Dan promotions Dear Miss Illona, In general Amen! As I've stated before, I've never failed a student at a test, and prefer to give out belts immediately after the test. As you say, they've earned it, why wait. If they're going to quit once they reach X belt, there's really nothing we can do about it. I have had about one per year conference with student/parent to explain why they were time elligible, but would not be testing this cycle. That conversation always includes a sincere pledge on my part to be available for additional one on one time. On to honoring Yudanja. I personally like the wall of fame (8x10 photos with name plaque) anywhere but the *front* (flag bearing) wall of the dojang which is *traditionally* reserved for pictures of kwan jang nim and sahbumnim (4th Dan and above). Wishing you another six years of quality training, Charles Moja Kwan TSD ------------------------------ From: "Moja Kwan - C. Richards" Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:31:02 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: NAHA Dana wrote <> When I joined SMK in 1994 we were affiliated with Master Weatherly, and were members of NAHA. Master James K. Allison (Oh Dan) is now the director of the U.S. Hapkido Sun Mu Kwan Federation (prideful plug) of which I am a member at the Atlanta Hapkido school (5th gup). We are affiliated with Grandmaster J.R. West and the USKMF (another prideful plug). You have a good eye for patches Dana. Yours in training, Charles USHKD SMK 5th Gup ------------------------------ From: "Silke Schulz" Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:16:57 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #314 Mark asked: >What does everyone on the list do as a tradition for someone's blackbelt >test? I went through this one...."Other traditions are the sparring in >accending rank order, all of the blackbelts present (for about 20 seconds >each) and ending with the new BB's instructor." We called it "The Wall". Though I could swear I sparred each black belt for longer than 20 seconds!!! :-) Silke ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 07:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: California State Games 12th Annual California State Games calstategames.org 619-282-1360 Taekwondo event June 3, 2000 Otay Recreation Center Chula Vista, Calif Age divisions: 6-7, 8-9, 10-11, 12-13, 14-15, 16-17, 18-32, 33-40, 41+ Male sparring, female sparring, forms Entry deadline May 12 WTF/USTU rules For more info: Grandmsater Gerald Wynn 619-265-8805 grdmwynn@aol.com ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #317 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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