From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #343 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 17 May 2000 Vol 07 : Num 343 In this issue: the_dojang: meditation ? the_dojang: Steve Reeves the_dojang: Re: Kids Lesson Frequency the_dojang: Re: Frequent Activities or Sports for Kids the_dojang: Age Vs Rank the_dojang: Kerry's Trials [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 945 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: meditation ? I'm curious who out there uses meditation as part of their training/life? What type? How long each session? Sessions per day? Where did you learn it? Has it made a difference in your life? I began meditating (TM) 22 years ago and have found that it greatly helps me reduce stress, which can get quite heavy here in Silicon Valley. I've also tried other forms of meditation, like those taught by GM JI Han-jae. Others? Ray Terry ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:18:36 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Steve Reeves This may not be new to some, but I just learned of Steve Reeves death of May 1. He died of complications of Lymphoma. Reeves was a pioneer in the fitness and bodybuilding world, and made a number of movies that helped pave the way for today's action stars. Personally, I had the opportunity to talk with him a few times, and found it inspirational as well as educational. He was born in Montana and grew up here as well. I have a picture of him as a boy with my grandmother. We were just talking about him the other day when I was over visiting her and my grandfather. I always liked that he was against steroids and other enhancement drugs and that he was a positive force for natural training. He will be missed in the bodybuilding and weight training circles. Yours in Training, Alain Burrese http://members.aol.com/aburrese/ ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:27:58 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Kids Lesson Frequency In a message dated 5/16/00 4:14:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << If any child was taking MA classes 3 or 4 times a week, 2 or 3 times a day, I'd have a hard look at whats happening in the background (not that this many classes is necessarily a bad thing, but that it should ring a few alarm bells). >> I don't see anything wrong with a child spending time with something they love. If dancing or soccer or any other kind of sport is not of interest to them and only martial arts is ... why not? The kids here that devote that much time here are what we would call our "karate kids". They help out in alot of the classes, take classes, help organize the weekend dojang activities, are on the demo team, and in general can't seem to get enough of it. We also go to other schools and do seminars and their parents will bring them along to help out and be role models to the other kids that are taking the seminar. They get good school grades and do alot of activities with their family too and are very happy at what they are doing. I know two brothers here that eventually want to open up their own school one day ... it has been the oldest boys dream since he came into our school and now his little brother is just as crazy about the idea. Some kids don't need 5 or 6 other sports or activities to try out. Some find what they are looking for right away. And it is not to say that these kids don't go swimming with their friends and/or family, or play ball at home, or go bowling on Saturday mornings, or ride horses (riding horses here is a big thing), etc. -- they do. Your kids have their path in life ... these "karate kids" have their own path. But to hint that there may be something wrong somewhere because they haven't chosen a path that you find appropriate ... now, that is not right. And what alarm bells are we speaking of ? Illona ------------------------------ From: MissIllona@aol.com Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:44:41 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Frequent Activities or Sports for Kids In a message dated 5/16/00 4:14:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I remind her that, as TKD is something she can do for the rest of her life, that 1st dan is only the beginning, and that she should look forward to having a lot of different experiences while she young and is able to do so. >> Sorry, but I don't understand this thinking. Why do it all when they are so young? Don't they have the rest of their life to do all that other stuff too? I play softball with my friends in a league. I go dancing on the weekends. I bowl on the weekends with friends. I also like to go drag racing too at the neighborhood strip out in the desert. Then there is dune buggy racing ... dirt bike riding ... but I turned my skateboard in when I had my last spill ... ouch! I do alot at my age ... not just martial arts ... and always will. But the only thing I did when I was young was bowl. I loved it more than anything in the world and couldn't get enough of it. But at different phases of my life I did different things ... gave up "serious" bowling in my late 20's and turned to martial arts. But I still did the drag racing and the bike riding. I love to ride horses ... I love to fly kites ... I love to swim in the ocean ... and I never considered when I was a kid that I had to cram that all in as a kid because I had to do it while I was young so I could enjoy it. I still enjoy it. And I will enjoy it when I am 103 years old. When I was a kid ... I wanted to enjoy being a kid. That meant spending time with my friends doing things that kids do ... building forts, playing with dolls, going to the movies with them, sleeping over at their house and staying up all night talking, riding bikes and skateboards with them, playing board games with them, etc. The only sport I did was baseball and bowling. But girls weren't allowed to play baseball with boys on a baseball team back in my day. We also didn't have soccer ... we had kickball ... and I hated it. Still do. Not my thing. But the day I walked into a karate school ... wow. I knew I was home. This was for me. And I have never looked back. And I have lots of kids here that also feel the same way. And I don't blame them. I encourage all parents to have their kids get swimming lessons ... very important. I also encourage all parents to take CPR/First Aid Classes ... but joining every sport that comes along ... plus martial arts ... no. I don't encourage that. Pick one sport ... and then martial arts ... yes. What it boils down to ... is that this is just my 2 cents ... nothing more, nothing less. Illona ------------------------------ From: "Farral, Kim G" Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 07:30:01 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Age Vs Rank A unique coincidence the postings on rank and age this weekend. Over the weekend I was at a small tournament supporting a couple of Master ranks under the same GM as I...we had trained together for a while...way back when...Aside from that I entered into a discussion with 4 other Black Belts...A husband, wife, their daughter, and her boyfriend ranking from 2 Dan to 4th Dan...the daughter is Senior to all at age 19...there is also a recent 19 year old 4th Dan where I currently train and teach...just one week ago I entered into the same discussion with a 5th Dan about age versus rank...we both remember when we first started in the arts being told by our then Masters, now GM, that there was a minimum age requirement to achieve 5th Dan...we each believed it to be either 40 or 42 years old... This evidently does not apply if it ever did...in discussion with the 4 Black Belts, the 19 year old daughter will be eligible for her 5th Dan in 2 years...I brought up the question of minimum age for 5th...none of them had ever heard of any such limitation...they then mentioned how the GM had told the 19 year old that she would be a GM at the same age that he became a Master...which just happened to be his early 40's...so obviously age is not a requirement under my GM... To the contrary...in the discussion with the 5th Dan about the 2nd 19 year old...it is believed that he will be forced to wait well beyond the minimum required years before being allowed to test for his Master rank...different organizations...different GMs...different philosophies... There are so many young back belts with a great deal of talent that I believe they should be promoted to rank befitting their talent...however...I also believe that youngsters under the age of 18 should be considered junior Black Belts (wearing the rank, but not carrying the responsibility or authority...if that makes sense) and then being given full rank status upon their 18th birthday... I am concerned that with such young Black Belts with such high rank that in many cases (not all as there are exceptions) the art will suffer due to lack of Maturity in the arts...talent is only one aspect of being a Black Belt...IMVHO, one must have the knowledge base to teach the art appropriately with historical and applicable references as well as having the Maturity to accept the responsibility and authority for the students, for the rank, and for the arts... The One and Only... Tink ------------------------------ From: "Farral, Kim G" Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:19:43 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Kerry's Trials Kerry... AAAAAAHHHHHHH...Weed-Hopper...Your trials have only JUST begun...You have not YET begun to feel the pain of your LONG-Suffering!!! Jr. Master Farral aka: The One and Only... Tink ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 06:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #343 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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