From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #376 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 5 June 2000 Vol 07 : Num 376 In this issue: the_dojang: Underwater Self Defense Seminar the_dojang: Opinions sought on Body Solid/Pro Smith Home Gyms the_dojang: Re: Ray in Chicago=stop off at Degenberg Academy the_dojang: Hai Dong Gumdo Seminar the_dojang: Thank you! the_dojang: Juche/Kodang the_dojang: Question sent to me the_dojang: Pressure points and blocking Re: the_dojang: Hai Dong Gumdo Seminar [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 900 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TaoArt@aol.com Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:10:10 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Underwater Self Defense Seminar Donna writes re: Underwater SD <> Well our insurance company covers both self defense and swimming (since we have a 55 foot pool onsite). So it covered the event without problem. We also have a killer Informed Consent that everyone must sign. And we had a certified lifeguard on duty as well as a Scuba Diver. We had Deck Watchers (people who were on deck the whole time making sure everyone played nicely). Each technique was practiced first on deck, then in shallow water, and finally in deep water. We had flotation ropes for people to rest on in between bouts. We also devised a release signal for partners so they knew to let go if the other person was having problems. All in all, it went very well. No injuries and we all enjoyed sitting in the Jacuzzis in our street clothes afterwards to get warmed up. Erik wrote: <> Since the pool is located right in our facility, it wasn't an issue. We simply reserved a time slot late one evening and we were the only ones in the pool. Now the Self Defense on Ice was even more interesting... :) We used soapy water and grappling mats. The challenge wasn't even the lack of footing... it was the fact that the more soapy we got, the harder it was to hold on to *each other*. :) Meghan Gardner Guard Up, Inc. www.GuardUp.com "Carry love in your heart and a knife in your pocket at all times." me ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Opinions sought on Body Solid/Pro Smith Home Gyms Opinions sought on the Body Solid/Pro Smith Home Gyms. This set up uses barbells but has a half cage system allowing you to use heavy weights with no spotters. Appears to be a good home gym with solid contruction and a small footprint. Has incline and decline bench. Those fitness trainers (e.g., Alain Burrese) out there please give me a shout. Thanks, Ken McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: Ray in Chicago=stop off at Degenberg Academy Ray Terry noted: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 04:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Hai Dong Gumdo Hello from Chicago. The first day of the Hai Dong Gumdo seminar at Kwon's TKD in Franklin Park, Illinois is under my belt. I head out this morning for 6 more hours of instruction in just a bit. The VP of the Hai Dong Assoc brought two instructors with him to instruct the basics. We learned such basic aspects of Hai dong Gumdo as putting down the sword, picking up the sword, straight cut, left & right cuts, cross cuts, basic steps, bows, etc. Yes, it felt strange but good being a white belt again. More today! Ray Terry> Response: Ray, while in Chicago stop by the Degenberg Academy on Western Avenue. I think it is in the 6000 block. Right near the el. Anyway, Fred Degenberg was a pioneer in bringing many styles of martial arts to the Chicago school. He also was in the movie with Steven Segal, re: Above the Law. While there have a polish sausage at one of the local eateries. Cheers, McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Anthony or Clare Boyd" Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 07:22:44 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: Hai Dong Gumdo Seminar I'm glad you are enjoying yourself Ray. I'm curious about how the seminar is being conducted so I'll run a few questions past you. How many people turned out to the seminar? Do you know if they are they travelling to other places to offer it? You mentioned a VP was there, did you catch his/her name? How is translation being handled? Did they supply printed information in English? Are you eating your wheaties? Anthony Boyd http://victorian.fortunecity.com/operatic/739 ------------------------------ From: "Silke Schulz" Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 19:15:51 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Thank you! I've been extremely busy the past few weeks since my knee surgery...and haven't been able to get through all the digests. I've saved the ones with the answers to my request for resources regarding the foster kids that were in my Tiny Tot program. I just wanted to thank you all for your responses and suggestions. I will now spend some time organizing all that wonderful information and hopefully present it to the foster care agency with the foster mom in the near future. Silke Schulz ------------------------------ From: "Michael Choi" Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 01:24:46 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Juche/Kodang Ju-che is Korean for "Self-reliance" and it is the "catch word" of North Korea. In a nutshell, the North Korean rhetoric is to build a country that is totally self-reliant and is not dependent on another country. This is to nullify Korea's history of vassalage and subservience to bigger countries such as China, Japan, and Russia/US. As I'm not an ITF'er or Chang Hon set pratitioner, I don't know the forms, but it SEEMS like Gen. Choi, Hong-hi is embracing North Korea more and more. If Gen. Choi is changing the forms for political reasons, I'm really disappointed. He said that he taught Taekwondo regardless of religion, political opinion, or ideology. Hopefully, he has a better reason. I would appreciate any clarification. Sincerely, Michael Choi >All,This question is, perhaps, old hat to those on this list. Nonetheless, >I am >looking for two discrete pieces of information: >1.) Why was the pattern Ko-Dang removed from the ITF curriculum? (i.e. >What was wrong with it?) >2.) Why was Ju-Che added (i.e. What made this so much better than >Ko-Dang?) >If you could please point me to a URL or give me your own input into this >matter it would be greatly appreciated.Thank you!Ryan Shroyer ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Gecko K. Martial Arts" Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 23:46:15 PDT Subject: the_dojang: Question sent to me Hi, I was sent this question and would love to pass on some of your views to this person. Thank you, Sandy "I am 47 years old and would like to study martial arts. I am in excellent shape I lift weights and do heavy aerobic work. what can I expect from Karate. My friends say Iam too old but the way I look at it in ten years I will be more flexible and agile than my friends. I studied 30 years ago but had too quit for lack of money due to family problems. I now have time and money and would like your input. Am I wasting my time in your opinion,could you shed some light for me?" ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?q?J=20S?= Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 11:14:42 +0100 (BST) Subject: the_dojang: Pressure points and blocking Hi, I'm a 6th kup in ITF Taekwondo and would like to ask you all this: A friend of mine told me something about blocks which I thought was interesting. Apparently in some other forms of martial arts (i.e not Taekwondo) such a thing as a block does not exist - it is tought as a 'block' but is actually a strike to presure points. Could anybody confirm or deny this? And I was wondering has anybody heard about this in TaeKwondo (ITF or other)? P.S. Is anyone out there going to USTF World Camp 2000 who could maybe tell me what to expect when I get there! ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 5:46:21 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Hai Dong Gumdo Seminar > I'm glad you are enjoying yourself Ray. I'm curious about how the seminar is > being conducted so I'll run a few questions past you. First let me be precise and state that the instructors were from the World Haidong Gumdo Federation. I was also honored to meet list member Scott Willoughby at the seminar. > How many people turned out to the seminar? About 30. Given that we were using the wooden swords, space was tight. > Do you know if they are they travelling to other places to offer it? It sounded like one of the instructors (Lee) was staying with KWON Duk-gun in Chicago to continue to teach in Franklin Park. The other (Park)was going to New Jersey and maybe Dallas and maybe Colorado Springs. Master Kwon indicated that he would help schools set up seminars in different parts of the country if people could get 20+ students together. > You mentioned a VP was there, did you catch his/her name? Only the last name, KIM. > How is translation being handled? Not too well. Only one of the instructors spoke a little English, but we made out ok. However I'm wondering if you can help get some of the terms/commands romanized? I heard the commands, but cannot learn very well that way. I need to see it romanized to remember it. Things like six way cutting, draw the sword, put the sword back, straight cutting, left/right cutting, straight/left/right cutting, turning defense, turning cutting, cross cutting, etc. The basics. Does that sound like the basic basics?? Mr. Willoughby, can you add more? > Did they supply printed information in English? Only a small brochure for the Federation. > Are you eating your wheaties? Total... :) Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2000 05:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #376 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.