From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #382 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 7 June 2000 Vol 07 : Num 382 In this issue: the_dojang: hai dong stances the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #380 the_dojang: Re: H.U. Lee the_dojang: Re: Beginning Training the_dojang: RE: lack of hand strikes [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 900 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 05:55:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: hai dong stances Anthony mentions the diff between the Hai Dong front stance and the TKD front stance. Yes, it was rather difficult to see Master Park's feet and legs given the long full pants of the Hai Dong uniform. But I did notice that the front foot was pointed in and asked Master Park about it. He demoed the diff between the front stances and also demoed how one moved from front to horse to front stance. There was also a very short set of movements taught that went in the front & rear directions. In it one movement had you pulling the Gum up to an 'on-guard' position to the right, standing just on the right foot, left leg/knee up, with left knee left elbow and chin in a straight line (with a kihap). Name? Is there a main Hai Dong Gumdo Federation dojang in Seoul where one might visit and train for a few days? Ray Terry ------------------------------ From: "Burdick, Dakin Robert" Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 07:59:52 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #380 > > 2) This was done as a tactic to allow for ITF TKD being taught in > > North Korea. As you might know, all martial arts were forbidden > > prior to 2this. > > Nope. The ITF has been quite strong in North Korea forever. ;-) I've > met some of the high-ranked North Korean black belts. They're all, > without exception, A) exceptionally pleasant people, and B) > exceptionally awesome martial artists. ;-) I am no expert on North Korea, but untill Choi came along, I am pretty sure that martial arts were forbidden - several very uptodate taekwondoists have told me so. Officers of the North Korean defense might be an exception. Can anybody fill in on this? Sorry Dave, but I think I have to agree with Anders on this, at least partly. I remember in the early 80s when Gen. Choi went to N. Korea. His students reported that there was no martial arts there (due to the communist regime) except for military unarmed combat, which was there called Kuksul. This is very similar to what happened to communist China in the 1950s. As for Choi's motivations in designing this new form, again, it seems clearly to be aimed at pleasing North Korea. I don't blame Choi. That's where his family is and if all it takes is a form name to visit your relatives, I'd probably do it too. Yours in the arts, Dakin Burdick burdickd@indiana.edu ------------------------------ From: Brett Erwin Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 09:00:04 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: H.U. Lee 9th Degree Grand Master H.U. Lee (president and founder of American TKD Assn) has cancer. I don't know much of the details other than he is very sick, undergone much treatment, and things aren't looking good. I beleive he has throat/lung cancer, likely due to years of smoking when he was younger. (You see kids, it doesn't matter how strong or athletic you are - smoking kills your body!) My instructor tells me that he probably doesn't have very long, and ATA is already planning for the worst. I would assume that his brother, 8th degree Soon Ho Lee, would be promoted to 9th degree and take over as a figurehead. But, who knows? I know most of you have never met are heard much about H.U. Lee, but if you saw the extensive list of accomplishments, developments, and innovations he developed, you would agree that ATA, and TKD as a whole will miss this significant contributer. For those of you so inclined, I know that Lee, his family, and all of his ATA students (150,000 of them) would appreciate your prayers. God Bless, Brett Erwin Allen, TX ------------------------------ From: d.d.parker@juno.com Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 08:14:03 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Beginning Training I know there have been a couple of threads in the past few issues regarding beginning martial Arts training at a later age. For anyone who is wondering whether this is really feasible or practical, look up the URL http://www.marylouisezeller.com. This inspiring martial artist didn't begin studying Taekwondo until the age of 46, and over the course of ten years has won over 40 gold medals in state, national and international competition. I had the opportunity to study with her for a few months last year and she is a phenomenal martial artist. I think she makes a strong case that age is not a reason, but rather an excuse, for not beginning to study martial arts. Cheers, Daniel ------------------------------ From: CA&B Skjold Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:11:01 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: lack of hand strikes I study WTF style Taekwondo do, and we have plenty of face and head contact in our technique and and if I ever dropped my hand to my side while sparring or in practice I would be doing push-ups forever to make sure I never did it again. yes kicking is more concentrated on, that's what separates Taekwondo do from karate. Tae kwon do is 'the way of kicking and punching' and karate is 'empty hand way' it just depends on what you want if you want more defense punching and face contact and less kicking I'd probably lean toward karate, i personally enjoy the kicking Later, Anne From: "Carl W" Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:19:58 MDT Subject: the_dojang: lack of hand strikes It may only be my impression, but when looking for a martial art (style) school for myself and daughter, most of the WTF TKD schools I visited put far greater emphasis on kicking techniques than hand techniques (in fact, if memory serves, I noticed most of the WTF school students sparring with their hands at their sides and\or much lower than I would have expected for defensive purposes). I also think that the WTF does not allow hand strikes to the face. On the other hand, the ITF TKD schools I visited did make more use of hand techniques, especially to the face. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #382 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.