From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #393 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Sun, 11 June 2000 Vol 07 : Num 393 In this issue: the_dojang: RE: HU Lee the_dojang: Countering a Hay Maker the_dojang: Re: For Mr. Steve Seo= Mr. Anthony Chang Re: the_dojang: Re: Rick Clark the_dojang: Re: Spelling Errors. the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #392 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #384 - GM Lee the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #386 the_dojang: Supreme Grandmaster Rankin= and the USMAA the_dojang: More on Bill Rankin=Supreme Grandmaster ? the_dojang: Still more--Supreme Grandmaster Rankin's Hall of Fame ? [none] ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 930 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "StarrAvis" Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:04:10 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: RE: HU Lee I remember my first meeting with GM Lee back in 1976 or 77. It was in Texarkana, Ark/Tex. He was just bringing his little brothers over to the USA. One of my instructors went under the ATA system just before this period of time and they were teaching the Chang-Hon style hyungs. I had studied Chon-ji, dan-Gun, and To-san and had showed them to this instructor and he laughed, because he had been studying the Pal-Gwe forms. He didn't want me practicing the forms in class-time and actually refused to help me with them. But, then he came back from a visit to Omaha one weekend and said he had new forms to teach us. BINGO!! Chon-ji, etc, etc,... It made hime feel bad that I new them before he did. ;-) But the meeting with GM Lee was interesting to say the least. It wasn't too long after that that some of the best names in Arkansas TKD quit the ATA and formed other organizations. If your from the ArkLaTex area then you should know who I'm talking about. By the way I had a total right hip replacement on June 6th and came home today June 10th. Feel like I've been stomped on but made high scores on this test. george petrotta martialarts2000@hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Tim Bruening Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 16:56:12 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Countering a Hay Maker If someone tries to hit me with a hay maker, how should I block it, and how should I follow it up? ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Re: For Mr. Steve Seo= Mr. Anthony Chang Mr. Seo stated: Response: Mr. Seo, I had the pleasure of meeting GM In Sun Seo in Pusan. I understand that Mr. Anthony Chang was a direct student under GM Seo. Please contact me privately to tell me about the status of Mr. Chang. I understand that he currently is located in Oakland, Ca. Thanks, Ken McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Erik Kluzek Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:39:46 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: the_dojang: Re: Rick Clark On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Jason Swanson wrote: > >>Rick Clark is another one that does a lot of pressure point seminars. He's > >>also got rank and experience in Tae Kwon Do. He says the Korean name for > >>pressure point striking is "Keupso chigi". > > Does anyone have the titles or ISBN# for any books this gentleman or Dillman > may have? > Rick Clarks book is "Martial Arts for the University" A textbook for Basic Judo, Ju-jitsu, Karate, Tae Kwon Do, Modern Arnis, and Vital Points; Rick Clark, Kendall/Hunt, Dubuque Iowa 1992 ISBN 0-8403-8107-7 an old number is 1(800)228-0810 He's also done numerous articles in martial arts magazines. The older ones are listed in the book, but he continues to write more every so often (to several different mags). He's also got a video on an seminar he did in Australia that shows the stuff and how to use it and teach it. That's about $35.00 as I recall. And he's got another video on the first Chulgi form about $75.00 that I haven't got yet. The address to get the tapes is given as: Rick Clark 2175 Ohio Blvd Terre Haute IN 47803 USA I can't say if that is still accurate or not. It would probably be best if you could find his e-mail address and talk to him on-line first to get the right details. His e-mail address used to be rickclark@ibm.net He's got a web-site for an organization he's with but I can't recall the address. However, I did find it with a search on "Rick Clark"... http://www.sanbushi.demon.co.uk/adk/ Looks like his e-mail address and home address hasn't changed. The web-site gives more details on the book, and videos. My only connection to Rick is that he was ranked as 2nd Dan in an organization I used to be associated with (the World Tae Kwon Do Association -- WTA), and he knew my Master -- 9th Dan Kim, Dong-Hoon from those days. I've been intriqued by his ideas about forms and find his book, which gives lots of applications to forms interesting. Is it "the end all and be-all of martial arts"? No I don't think so, else I would join his organization. But, I do think it's comething worth looking into for anyone that is a serious student of the martial arts. Erik Kluzek, (CGD at NCAR) National Center for Atmospheric Research Boulder CO, (off) (303)497-1326 (fax) (303)497-1324 - --------- Home page and public PGP key--------------- http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/~erik !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: d.d.parker@juno.com Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:25:10 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Spelling Errors. Oh geez, please forgive me! I know my last post had some atrocious spelling/word errors in it. I promise that in the future, I will not write replies while keeping one eye on the television, one eye on the computer screen and chitchatting with my wife. Sorry, Daniel ------------------------------ From: Tony Preston Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:01:19 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #392 |From: "Jason Swanson" |Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 10:01:56 -0500 |Subject: the_dojang: Re: Rick Clark |>>Rick Clark is another one that does a lot of pressure point seminars. He's |>>also got rank and experience in Tae Kwon Do. He says the Korean name for |>>pressure point striking is "Keupso chigi". |Does anyone have the titles or ISBN# for any books this gentleman or Dillman |may have? Dillman has a couple of good starter books on pressure points. One I have handy is "Advanced Pressure Point Fighting of Ryukyu Kempo" the ISBN number is 0-9631996-3-3. I know that Rick Clark has a couple of books, none of which I have been able to find at local stores(tried to order one online and it was not in print). Barnse & Noble has some stuff listed if you do an author search. - -- - -- Tony Preston *Team Amiga* Linux Developer since 1993 - -- SR Principal Engineer/Scientist - -- Atlantic Science & Technology Inc. - -- The Amiga Zone BBS 609-654-7659, Citadel 68K ------------------------------ From: Chuck Sears Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:18:53 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #384 - GM Lee > From: TKDSCRIBE@aol.com > Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 21:04:57 EDT > Subject: the_dojang: "TEST?" > > In a message dated 6/7/00 4:52:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > > > n light of recent discussion on self-appointed GrandMasters, etc. I just > > wanted to emphasize the point that "GrandMaster" Lee performed a testing in > > front of a panel of his seniors and was recognized and promoted to the rank > > of 9th degree, and GrandMaster. > > > > I am curious; how does one "test" before one's juniors for higher rank than > they supposedly hold? This seems incongruous with concept of a "test." This > sounds more like the description of a demonstration, than an exam, to me. > What do you all think? One could think that if one weren't there to see it. I was. The testing panel was composed of high ranking Masters and acknowledged Grandmasters of several different martial arts, as well as several different styles of Taekwondo. GM Lee performed the same things that are required for all students in the ATA: form, sparring and board breaks. Needless to say, his form was incredibly complex and really demonstrated the power and beauty of the Songahm style of Taekwondo. His sparring was against an individual armed with a knife. We thought it was a rubber practice knife until he knocked it up into the air during one of the disarms and it happened to stick in the floor. His board breaks were against two stations, one knifehand through two boards and a running jump sidekick over multiple obstacles, again through two boards. However, instead of breaking the standard 1/2" white pine boards that are normally used, his boards were the 1" red pine boards, which I understand are like concrete (I've not tried breaking them, so I have no first hand knowledge.). His jump side kick was so strong that he penetrated both boards and knocked one of his holders down and out. They had to carry him off the stage. I realize that when one gets to be good enough to be considered a Master of Masters, it's hard to consider it a testing by superiors. Consider it, instead, as a public demonstration of skill and ability, and an acknowledgement of of worthiness by equals. How many others who hold the title of Grandmaster have voluntarily chosen to lay it on the line like that to earn the title? ------------------------------ From: Chuck Sears Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:33:55 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #386 > > From: "kadin goldberg" > Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 19:04:15 MDT > Subject: the_dojang: One question. > > All have have is one question... is TKD only for sport? Absolutely not. Senior Master Robert Allemeir of the ATA said it best: "We teach life skills, and we use Taekwondo as the teaching medium." ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Supreme Grandmaster Rankin= and the USMAA Does anyone else know of this person ? I have met him. But, I....... Here is an excerpt from his website: < THE MESSAGE FROM William A. Rankin The United States Martial Artist Association (U.S.M.A.A.), was formed in 1977 by Supreme Grand Master William A. Rankin. We are an organization dedicated to the preservation of quality martial arts skills and training. There are a number of instructors and students within the martial arts community that no longer maintain a relationship with their original teacher. They have no one to rely on in order to achieve advancement in rank and to further their knowledge in the martial arts. We provide that service for each and everyone of out members. We are please to inform you that we do not tolerate any politics or discrimination, whatsoever. Everyone enjoys membership in our organization, based on his/her ability and traditional posture within the martial arts community. You are never judged by the past or current association or actions of your prior teacher, his/her affiliates or your prior students, whatever the case may be. There are currently 2 membership categories to choose from and you are free to select the one which benefits your current interests and financial situation. I would like to personally take this opportunity to formally invite you to become a member of the United States Martial Artist Association. I sincerely look forward to your prompt reply and welcoming you to our family, as one of the oldest and most respected martial arts organizations in the country. Fill in membership application Sincerely yours, Supreme Grand Master William A. Rankin 10th Dan United States Martial Artist Association Director> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: More on Bill Rankin=Supreme Grandmaster ? Additional information from "Supreme Grandmaster" Bill Rankin: RANKIN MARTIAL ARTS FITNESS CENTER (RMAFC) INTERNATIONAL HEADQUARTERS OF THE United States MARTIAL ARTIST ASSOCIATION 1209 East Street, Suite H, Frederick, Maryland 21701 1-301-631-0152 CLASSES OFFERED TO Men - Women - Children THE COMBINED MARTIAL ART OF Okinawa Uchuno Shorin-ryu Karate Jujitsu and Aikido Uchuno Nippon Tai Chi Defensor Method of Escrima/Kali/Silat Ancient Okinawan Weaponry (Kobudo) Natural Self-Defense Maryland Police & Correctional Training Commission Certification Kickboxing Separate Women's Self-Defense Classes Acupressure Massage Therapy Complete Fitness Room with Olympic and Standard Weights Cardio Equipment and Weight Machines Complete Locker Facility with Showers What is the RMAFC? The Rankin Martial Arts Fitness Center has been serving the Frederick county area since 1988. Bill and Judy Rankin, who bring over 40 years of combined experience to the RMAFC, founded the school. The primary goal of the RMAFC is to teach self-discipline, integrity, soundness of mind and body with proper emphasis on control. The traditional martial arts are designed to help build character and prepare the student for self-defense situations as well as teaching them how to avoid conflicts. What is Karate & Kobudo? Karate is an ancient Okinawan art of self-defense in which bare hands and feet are used for protection. The term "Karate" when translated means "Empty-hands". Kobudo is the study of the old weapons way. Okinawan Kobudo teaches the use of various farming and fishing implements, which were used by the Okinawans to protect themselves. What is Jujitsu and Aikido? Jujitsu and Aikido are unarmed methods of defense practiced for many centuries in Japan as a military art. The term "Jujitsu" means "Gentle Art". Jujitsu and Aikido depends on one's ability to yield to an opponent's strength. The goal is control or incapacitation of an opponent by means of simple holds and throws. Practice of Jujitsu and Aikido develops one's knowledge of psychology, anatomy and the application of the principles of stance, balance and yielding. The RMAFC has integrated authentic instruction in Jujitsu and Aikido as a part of the regular program and not a separate entity. What is Uchuno Nippon Tai Chi? Uchuno Nippon Tai Chi developed in Okinawa, is the martial art that deals with the internal flow of energy. Although gentle in appearance, however, very devastating in self-defense. What is Defensor Method of Escrima/Kali/Silat? Defensive styles of the Philippine Islands dealing with empty hands and the use of sticks (single or in pairs). What is Natural Self-Defense? Natural self-defense is the defense of your body from any type of attack dealing with the body's natural occurring ability to protect itself. Our method is explosive and very devastating. What is Martial Art Aerobics? Aerobic exercise using martial art techniques to a variety of music. Some people use the term "Kickboxing" or Tae Bo" What is a typical class like? Class begins with warm-up exercise followed by stretching. Next phase is the practice of basic stances, blocks, strikes and kicks. The remainder of the session will deal with self-defense techniques, 1-step sparring combinations and controlled free-style sparring. The brown and black belts can train in the Ancient Okinawan Weaponry. Throughout the class we discuss history and philosophy. The class lasts approximately 1 and 1/2 hours. It is highly recommended that the student attend at least 2 times per week. Why study the martial arts? Most people study the martial arts for self-defense, self-discipline and self-confidence. Other people study for health benefits. The RMAFC programs teaches a very effective means of self-defense, as well as an all around body conditioning athletic activity. Considerable demands are made on one's self-discipline, both physically and mentally. The program is also very valuable for character development. In short, the RMAFC Training Program helps produce a well-balanced, self-confident personality, able to avoid conflict but skilled to defend when necessary. How long does it take to get good in the martial arts? That depends on the individual. Basic competency may come in as little as 2 to 4 months. Black Belt eligibility requires 21 to 36 months. What about injuries? The RMAFC Program prides itself on its excellent safety record. All of our programs are designed to maximize student safety. Modern safety equipment is mandatory for sparring practice. Can children take martial arts? Yes, the practice is excellent for children as it develops self-discipline as well as improves mind and body coordination. The RMAFC offers programs for children starting at the age of 6 years old. We provide a class environment, which is specifically adapted to the skill and maturity of the child. Are visitors welcome? Visitors are always welcomed at the RMAFC. So if you have an interest in the martial arts, give us a call to set up an appointment for your FREE INTRODUCTORY class or stop by to observe a class in session. WHEN ARE CLASSES AND HOW MUCH DO THEY COST? Youth classes Mon/Wed 5:00 - 6:00 Tue/Thurs 5:30 - 6:30 Adult classes Mon/Tue/Thurs 7:00 - 8:30 Kali (Filipino stick fighting) Wed 7:00 - 8:30 Uchuno Tai Chi Tues/Thurs 1:00 - 2:00 Mon/Wed 6:00 - 7:00 Women's Self-defense Tues/Thurs 10:00 - 11:00 Kickboxing (self-defense combo) Mon/Wed 6:00 - 7:00 Iaido (sword) Friday evenings only (not part of the regular program) Monthly tuition fees range from $15.00 to $65.00. WHO ARE THE INSTRUCTORS? Karate Supreme Grand Master William A. Rankin Supreme Grand Master Bill Rankin is a 10th Degree Black Belt of the Uchuno Shorin-ryu Karate Style. 1998 World Karate Union Hall of Fame Inductee as Grand Master of the Year. 1988 World Karate Grand Champion. Began training in hand to hand combat 1965, jungle warfare 1967, and studied Shito-ryu, Jujitsu, Tang Soo Do, Tae Kwon Do, Escrima, Tai Chi, Kenpo, Kempo, Iaido, Judo, Aikido and several styles of Kung Fu. Trainer of several police officers in Maryland, North Dakota, California, New Mexico, Texas and Florida. Karate Master Judith B. Rankin Master Judith Rankin is a 5th Degree Black Belt in Uchuno Shorin-ryu karate. Inducted into the 1999 United States Martial Artist Association Hall Of Fame as Master of the Year. Has been recognized in the 2000 National registry of Who's Who. Master Judith Rankin teaches Self-defense for Hood College and is recognized as one of the leading teachers of Women's Self-defense programs in the area. Presently holds office of Co-Director of the United States Martial Artist Association. > Response: Experienced martial artists comments solicited please. Thanks. Ken McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Still more--Supreme Grandmaster Rankin's Hall of Fame ? Final info obtained from Supreme GrandMaster Rankins website. Anyone aware of this Hall of Fame. Any seasoned martial artists in this Hall of Fame ? Thanks. Hall of Fame The United States Martial Artist Association was formed in 1977 in San Antonio Texas. Over the past years we have grown to be one of the most prestigious associations in the United States. This organization recognizes individual accomplishments in and out of the studio. As of 1999, the United States Martial Artist Association began hosting the Annual Hall of Fame Awards Banquet Ceremony. The U.S.M.A.A. Hall of Fame Induction is the highest honor a martial artist can receive. We have restructured our organization to recognize U.S.M.A.A. members and non-members alike. Studio operators and private instructors should feel welcome and participate in this international festivity. The ceremony will be held July 29, 2000, in Frederick, Maryland.> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #393 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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