From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #395 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 12 June 2000 Vol 07 : Num 395 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: Rick Clark (seminar notes) the_dojang: Kwan founders' ranks the_dojang: JAMA & Henning the_dojang: a block is not just a block the_dojang: Use of the Wrist in the Vertical Punch & ... ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 930 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Danny Abramovitch Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:35:56 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Rick Clark (seminar notes) Having set up Rick's first West Coast seminars back in 1994, I know a little bit about him. In any event, I posted some notes on his seminars on-line. It's been a while since I looked at the stuff (or anything else for that matter), but here is the URL: http://www.labs.agilent.com/personal/Danny_Abramovitch/vital_pt/vital_pt_notes.pdf I found that these notes encompased 95% of what he taught at any seminar I attended. (Note that I attended several and after a while they got somewhat repetitious.) - -- Danny ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:17:35 GMT Subject: the_dojang: Kwan founders' ranks >>To what extent did the original kwans practice the same martial art? >Trust me, I'm no expert... But I believe that most were pretty much >Karate-do-like with the Chung Do Kwan's LEE Won-kuk holding the most >advanced formal rank of the various Kwan founders, a 3rd Dan in >Shotokan. Didn't one of the kwan founders hold a fourth dan in Shudokan? I believe this was the founder of Chang Moo Kwan (In Byung Yun). Taekwon, Chis "Every experience of beauty points to infinity." Hans Urs von Balthasar ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: JAMA & Henning I was just reviewing Henning's recent article on Traditional Korean Martial Arts in the most recent issue of JAMA (Journal of Asian Martial Arts). He states that the cave murals we were discussing "...include one scene which clearly depicts wrestling (juedi in Chinese and kakjo in Korean) and another with two protagonists rushing at each other which has been interpreted by some as depicting boxing (shoubo in Chinese and subak in Korean). Whether or not the latter scene actually depicts boxing as opposed to wrestling remain a matter of conjecture, but what is known is that already by this time, Chinese martial arts had devleoped to a relatively high degree of sophistication with a clear distinction made between wrestling and boxing practices." I was wrong about the cave murals and just wanted to set the record straight. Ray Terry ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: a block is not just a block Another good article in the recent Journal of Asian Martial Arts on blocks and their usage. In short, the article demos how the basic blocking motion that we've all learned can also to be '...used in a wide variety of applications that include grappling, striking, choking, take-downs, as well as blocking'. Ray Terry ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: Use of the Wrist in the Vertical Punch & ... In the recent issue of the Journal of Asian Martial Arts there is an examination of the vertical punch vs. the twisting straight punch. Dempsey was used as one of the references in the study. The conclusion reads: "While the traditional twisting punch is the most popular punch in existence today, some experts (such as Advincula, Anderson, and Dempsy) and styles (such as Isshin-ryu and Wing Chun) maintain that the vertical punch is a superior technique. Any discussion concerning the efficacy of these two techniques should be substantiated by the scientific literature instead of either idle speculation or anecdotal data. If one takes an objective look at the scientific data instead of blindly following tradition, it becomes evident that the vertical punch is a better way of punching from a biomechanical perspective. "When throwing the traditional twisting punch, the hand ends up in a pronated position. A review of the existing literature has shown that this pronated position doubles the force borne by the smaller ulna bone. The vertical punch keeps the wrist in a neutral position, where force is concentrated on the larger radius, which is more capable of handling such forces. Additionally, by keeping the wrist in neutral, the muscles that flex the wirst and those that extend the wrist may be in a more favorable line of pull that would keep the wrist straight. However, to better understand this process, more muscle studies need to be conducted. "Objections to the vertical punch come in at least two forms. The first maintains that the twisting of a punch makes it more powerful. However, while torque in an axis perpendicular to the line of movement may provide some additional force output in the direction of movement, its contribution would be minimal. Russian researchers using electromyography (EMG) studies have found that both the arm and shoulder only contribute 24% of the muscular force developed by a punch (Verkhonshamsky, Filimonov, Husyainov, & Garakyan, 1991). Realizing that the muscles of the shoulder and arm create most of that 24%, how much could the pronators possibly contribute? The popularity of the twisting punch probably comes more from its inclination to tear open the skin when wearing a boxing glove that it does from its contribution of additional power to a punch. "The second objection argues that if the vertical punch is a superior method of punching, why isn't everyone punching that way? The same specious argument could have been offered to Hank Lussetti, who came up with the one-handed free throw to replace the two-handed set shot, or to Perry O'Brien, who decided to face in the opposite direction of the one where he intended to throw a shot put, or even to Steven Fosbry, who went over the bar of a high jump backwards. Why indeed? Presented for your comments... Ray Terry ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #395 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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