From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #416 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 19 June 2000 Vol 07 : Num 416 In this issue: the_dojang: Minneapolis/St. Paul Dojangs & "Supreme" title the_dojang: neitzche the_dojang: Pacifism the_dojang: Incorrect USTU information - more details please the_dojang: More informatio on Marc "Animal" Macyoung? Re: the_dojang: More informatio on Marc "Animal" Macyoung? the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 975 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daremo and Kitsune Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:36:35 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Minneapolis/St. Paul Dojangs & "Supreme" title >From: CA&B Skjold >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:06:30 -0500 >Subject: the_dojang: School in MPLS/St. Paul > >I grabbed these from the yellow pages for you, not all listed said WTF >but you could call I suppose. >MN TKD Center (WTF), 1895 Rice Street, Rooseville 612-487-0700 >WTF TKD by Grand Master Kim, Several locations 612-571-5540 >Classic TKD Studio, 3946 Sibley Memorial Hwy, Eagan 612-688-0480 >SOund Mind & Body School, 1558 St Claire Ave. 612-698-5951 >Asian Martial Arts, 8659 Jefferson Hwy., Osseo 612-493-9596 >TKD Center Inc. (WTF). 6061 Univ Ave NE, MPLS, 612-571-5540 >Classic TKD (WTF), 6421 Lyndale Ave S. MPLS, 612-866-0700 >Kor-Am TKD School (WTF) 6610 Penn Ave S. MPLS, 612-866-2005 >Won Ki Kwan, 18142 Minnetonka Blvd, Minnetonka 612-449-5774 > >Some of the area codes have changed but you usually can still get >through using the old one or amessage will say which on to use. > >Hope this helps your friend >Anne Unfortunately, I'm not listed in theYellow Pages yet but Pine Tree Taekwondo is up and running in Brooklyn Center & St. Paul. Call me if you have questions. Young Eun 612-521-1958 >From: Todd Miller >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:39:08 -0400 >Subject: the_dojang: Supreme Grandmaster > >I believe that if one has to add to there title of GM, SUPREME there is >most definitely an ego problem with that individual. If you look at the >various founders of different arts, how many of them add SUPREME to >there title. When this or other similar titles are used it tells me >that the person using it is trying to hide something and IS NOT SUPREME >at all. > >Todd I don't know that it is always that way. "Supreme" Grandmaster Ro, Byung Jick has received this title more so from his son wanting to emphasize his father's role in the development of Song Moo Kwan (and Taekwondo) more than GM Ro, Byung Jick trying to claim things he shouldn't. Young Eun ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Anita=20Cule?= Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the_dojang: neitzche - ---"One poster, who I can't identify because of my ineptitude, stated essentially that Nietzche was a bad man because Hitler read his books and started National Socialism, or something such. I would like to remind that knowledge is often two-edged, and history has many examples of readers misapplying the philosophy of others. That Hitler went wrong is not an indictment of Nietzche's work or the man. In broad terms, the crusades were fought by later followers of a pretty pacifistic guy. Would we judge him because of the wrongness of his followers?"---- That was the poster's point. He didn't say that Neitzche was bad, he said others, using narrow minded logic, could perceive him as bad. _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Spiller" Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:37:18 GMT Subject: the_dojang: Pacifism >In broad terms, the crusades were fought by later followers of a pretty >pacifistic guy. Would we judge him because of the wrongness of his > >followers? >Rick Foley Isn't he the same guy who whipped the money changers out of the Temple with a whip of chords? He also said that he came not to bring peace, but a sword. Equating Jesus and Christianity with pacificism is a relatively modern concept that fails to take into account things like what he actually said. I am not saying the Crusades were a good idea, I just don't know if we should make all Christians become pacifists. All too often pacifism devolves into the belief that NOTHING is worth fighting for. Taekwon, Chris "Every experience of beauty points to infinity." Hans Urs von Balthasar ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Megadunce@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:45:21 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Incorrect USTU information - more details please Frank: Can you be more specific on this point. ------------------------------ From: Megadunce@aol.com Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:42:35 EDT Subject: the_dojang: More informatio on Marc "Animal" Macyoung? I have one of his books and his video on how to survive a knife fight. Does anyone on this list know him or have worked with him? He seems very knowledgeable and I am just wondering what others experience with Mr. Macyoung are. I specifically bought the tape on surviving a knife fight since we spend NO time in my TKD class on this issue. The video seemed credible and the techniques looked practical. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:08:01 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: More informatio on Marc "Animal" Macyoung? > I have one of his books and his video on how > to survive a knife fight. Does anyone on this list > know him or have worked with him? He seems > very knowledgeable and I am just wondering > what others experience with Mr. Macyoung are. "Animal" is active on our Eskrima-Digest list. He certainly has a wealth of practical experience. Alain B. is also good friends with him. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:12:34 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #416 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.