From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #434 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 28 June 2000 Vol 07 : Num 434 In this issue: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #433 the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #433 the_dojang: Low Blood Sugar the_dojang: Price and contracts the_dojang: Price the_dojang: Re: Low Blood Sugar the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 970 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LJSFLEM@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:51:39 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #433 In a message dated 6/28/00 2:02:12 PM !!!First Boot!!!, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << day. It was all a bit scary. >> Sandy, you did not indicate if you have a history of low blood sugar or how low your blood sugar was. I have some personal experience with this as well as my son and close friends. You can carry a liquid that comes in a tube and is predigested. Awful taste but it works. Glucose tablets are available, they disolve in your mouth. These would be considered medical rather than food. Please see a physician if these episodes continue. Not allowing a snack for a competitor with a blood sugar problem would be equivalent to me of not be allowed an albuterol inhaler for breathing distress. Anyone else with these experiences? Lorraine - purple belt ------------------------------ From: Emactkd@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:05:23 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #433 McDojang doesn't directly correlate to a guy trying to pay his rent. Observe a few classes, get the feel of the school. If you don't like it, try another martial art. Although I love TKD/HKD, it isn't the only way. Rick Foley ------------------------------ From: DWall1008@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:54:33 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Low Blood Sugar This used to happen to me at tournaments too! (On the Krane Circuit) I kept the breakfast bars and hard candy in my gym bag no matter what the "rules" were. I also kept a water bottle with orange juice with two teaspoons of sugar in my gym bag as well. There was only one tournament that they checked bags and questioned why I was bringing them in. I simply told them I had low blood sugar and they could either allow me to enter with my provisions or keep the medical personnel ringside. They were very gracious and even iced my orange juice for me. Recently we were testing on a Saturday in hot weather for over three hours. Despite drinking lots of liquids and having snacks, I did have a minor melt down. I found that it helps to advise someone else what to do just in case. Everyone was very helpful (getting me Gatorade & snacks) and I passed my test. Everyone has something to challenge them (bad backs, knees, or other medical problems) if this is what I have to deal with nearing age 40, I'll count myself lucky! ------------------------------ From: LAHapkido@aol.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:57:26 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Price and contracts In reference to the $200.00 or more downpayment and the one year sign up, that really depends on what part of the world you live in as to if that is high or not. I personally feel that if he is commited to what he is doing than he should be willing to allow you to come in and attend class for a week free of charge. I would not sign up at a dojang where the owner discuss his personal expenses with me. After all he does not know me from Adam. Ask questions! What makes his school worth the price that he is asking? Who did he train with? Is he still affiliated with his Instructor? How long has he been teaching Hapkido? How long has he been in the Martial Arts? If he answers your questions to your satisfaction than ask yourself a couple of questions. Can I afford to pay the price he is asking for the lessons? Do I feel good about the answers he gave to my questions? If you are satisfied with your answers than take it from there, if not continue to search for the right Dojang. Good Luck and train hard. Kwan Jang Dan Rogers 8th Dan Chun Ki Hapkido ------------------------------ From: Joel Weissler Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:56:02 -0700 Subject: the_dojang: Price "If an instructor wants you to put $200 (or more) up front..... Plus sign up for 1 year.... Should the red flags go up?? The guy is the ONLY dojang in the area that teaches TKD + Hapkido... He's pleasant on the phone... But every time I bring up the cost, he says I must come in & try it out....he also wants $20 for the 1st lesson... (He says the $20 is because I may never return & he doesn't want to waste his time...+ he talks about his "overhead" expenses...)" Although martial arts is almost a religious calling to some - it generally is a business. If someone is going to provide you with an hour of his time for an introductory private lesson and he wants to sell that hour for only twenty dollars - its not unreasonable. Dojangs that fail to give proper attention to the business side fail. For a martial arts instructor, his time is his only 'inventory'. His or her knowledge determines the value of that inventory. But only the creator determines how much inventory (time) he or she can sell. Would you think that $20 for an introductory one hour piano lesson was unreasonable? A martial arts program is a program of instruction. If you go down to your local private college or university - you expect to pay a set tuition for the full course (not pay by the week). So asking you to enroll in a program/course prior to providing instruction is in MHO appropriate. The school should offer you the option of paying for the entire course up front if you wish. If you do not wish to pay up front, then a payment plan which calls for a down payment and monthly payments is quite reasonable. In terms of the down payment amount, that amount may have been set for many different reasons - how much up front payment is needed to really get a student to be committed ? Are you going to receive any uniforms ?, or if the school utilizes a finance company - is that percentage of the total payment necessary for you to qualify for the financing with the third party finance company ? Martial Arts instructors add enormous value to our lives - they deserve fair compensation for their time. They have spent years developing skills to teach. We should respect their expertise and be willing to pay for its value. The health benefits extend our lives. The practical benefit may save our lives. The instruction and practice certainly improves our lives. What is that worth? I have never met a martial artist who charged close to that value (and that's a good thing because I might not be able to make the monthly payments :<)). On an additional note: Why have you in first for a trial lesson - because you may be equally on trial - are you an acceptable student ? Are you a potential abuser of the training? or are you an awesome potential student who may need a break in price because of his or her circumstances ? If you want to train - go meet this school owner. If you don't like him, don't train with him. Just remember to give him the respect that a hard working trained professional deserves. ------------------------------ From: d.d.parker@juno.com Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:11:44 -0600 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Low Blood Sugar I guy in my fencing team had an experience such as you describe at a meet at Vassar College once. It was pretty scary and I was surprised that the officials didn't stop the match. We had only eaten breakfast that day and his attack happened at about 7pm that evening during the mens foil finals. There was nothing to do at the time and he lost the match, but it was only then that we all (the entire team) realized that none of us had eaten since the morning. That experience got me in the habit of always eating during any sort of extended physical activity, be it a tournament or a day hiking in the mountains. I usually eat a lot of small snacks, something every hour or so. This seems to work for me. Cheers, Daniel ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:19:52 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #434 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. 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