From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #436 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Thur, 29 June 2000 Vol 07 : Num 436 In this issue: Re: the_dojang: going from TKD to HKD the_dojang: Re: diets the_dojang: RE: Low Blood Sugar the_dojang: more added to the TKD history link the_dojang: HKD and TKD in the same dojang the_dojang: Re: Price the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #435 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 960 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 6:51:54 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: going from TKD to HKD > from the knee. Is this a reflection on their prior training (some are Jhoon > Rhee students which always seemed reputable to me) or is it because of the > sport nature of TKD (pulling the kicks for safety)? Not sure what you're seeing and I don't doubt that you see what you see. But the kicks of sport TKD are full power, full contact. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: ABurrese@aol.com Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:44:17 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: diets Ken, No, I have not forgotten about the books. Trying to catch up here so I can write something decent about them, rather than just titles. However, on the diets. You may want to check out "Eating Well For Optimum Health" by Andrew Weil, M.D. I am reading it now, but he seems to make a lot of sense in what he writes, and being a doctor with a lot of research helps too. (Although I realize Atkins and some of the others are doctors too) Weil talks some about the Atkins and Zone diets and why he disagrees with them. Yes, there are people out there that swear by Atkins, Zone and other diets. But then there are people who swear by the grapefruit only diet too. :-) Thing is, different eating works for different people, exercise plays such an important role as well. But does that mean the diet is really healthy? Will the weight stay off? I have read part of "The Zone" by Sears and it's on my shelf, but I have also read articles and other things like Weil's book that disagree with that plan. I have not read Atkins, but Weil and others make better sense of why a low carb diet is not the best. I'll try and catch up and write more on this soon. I have a lot of catching up to do before Yi Saeng and I head to California. But check out Weil's book. He has some advice that I don't know if I'll follow either, but he does have a lot of good advice that I'm trying to incorporate. (Have not read the chapter on weight loss yet, so not sure his exact ideas on that.) Yours in Training, Alain Burrese ------------------------------ From: "Dunn, Danny J RASA" Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:06:35 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Low Blood Sugar Sandy Wrote: <<>> Sandy, While it has not happened to me personally, it is a fairly common occurrence at tournaments and tests. I have had it happen several times to contestants, most commonly while sparring, after not having eaten most of the day. It also happens sometimes in tests where a person is to nervous to eat regular meal prior to a test, then all of a sudden, bam, they hit the floor. It is more common with smaller people, therefore more common for women than men in my experience, but that may not be the case statistically. You are so pumped up, you don't notice the signs until your coming to. Sometimes, people don't completely pass out, other times they are totally unconscious. Remember to eat your regular meals and it shouldn't reoccur. Danny Dunn ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 8:54:06 PDT Subject: the_dojang: more added to the TKD history link The first two sections of chapter 2 and chapter 3 were just added to the link http://www.martialartsresource.com/korean/history.html. Interesting reading and thanks to the great many of you that are contributing. This tremendously broadens the open & free access to this useful information. Enjoy. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 9:46:56 PDT Subject: the_dojang: HKD and TKD in the same dojang I'm curious... Who among you study/teach/operate a dojang that teaches both Hapkido and Taekwondo? (or HKD and Tang Soo Do or HKD and Soo Bahk Do or ???) Do you consider yourself a HKD school that also does TKD on the side, or a TKD school that does HKD on the side? How do you think it is working out? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Mark M. Smith" Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:07:10 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Price The discussion on whether a "red flag" should be raised based on the business practices of a school is interesting. There are arguments to be made on both side of the debate. One thing I have noticed though is that people are usualy looking at the situation from the perspective of the student. It is also interesting to look at it from the perpective of the business owner. At 05:19 PM 6/28/00 -0400, you wrote: >Although martial arts is almost a religious calling to some - it >generally is a business. If someone is going to provide you with an >hour of his time for an introductory private lesson and he wants to sell >that hour for only twenty dollars - its not unreasonable. Dojangs that >fail to give proper attention to the business side fail. For a martial >arts instructor, his time is his only 'inventory'. His or her knowledge >determines the value of that inventory. But only the creator determines >how much inventory (time) he or she can sell. Would you think that $20 >for an introductory one hour piano lesson was unreasonable? If you look at this from the owner/operator "business" prospective (which I do) then the question flips around. Each student in a school provides $500-$1500/year in income for the business. The question becomes how much am I, as the business owner, willing to spend to get a new student. If I can spend $100 and get a student then I will do very well at the end of the year. In fact, I would love to be able to "buy" students for $100. This is why well run schools give introductory offers, free classes, etc. They know the value of each student to the school. A well run school is confident that the student will still be there in a year, so they are not afraid to invest in getting that new student. >On an additional note: Why have you in first for a trial lesson - >because you may be equally on trial - are you an acceptable student ? >Are you a potential abuser of the training? or are you an awesome >potential student who may need a break in price because of his or her >circumstances ? If you want to train - go meet this school owner. If >you don't like him, don't train with him. Just remember to give him the >respect that a hard working trained professional deserves. Now this is no longer a "business" question. If the student is being evaluated then it is not really a business providing a service for a fee. Not that this is wrong, in fact I think it is a very useful model for Martial Arts training, it just should not be mixed with a business model. The overall perpective is that if this is a business then it should be trying to get customers (students). It should be doing everything in its power to attract them because customers are how the business survives. If a business does not have time to engage a new customer, then this is a "red flag" for me. Imagine if the local car dealership asked you for $20 to look at their cars before you bought them. __________________________________________________________ Mark M. 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Illona ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:16:53 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #436 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.