From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #442 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Mon, 3 July 2000 Vol 07 : Num 442 In this issue: the_dojang: Head Injury the_dojang: RE: Breaking Requirements the_dojang: kay poe/esther kim the_dojang: Choi Hong Hi's son the_dojang: nutrition and supplementation in training the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #441 the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 960 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Rudy Timmerman" Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 16:55:57 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Head Injury Greetings everyone: A few issues ago, I read a message from one of our fellow subscribers regarding a head injury he had received. I thought surely somebody would comment on the post, so I could remain in my lurking mode. Alas, no one did, and it is too important to let slide. I am deeply disturbed by the letter of the person who received the injury, because he did not mention visiting a qualified physician. You mentioned blurred vision, recurring headaches, semi or unconsciousness, and some other symptoms that should have resulted in an immediate visit to the DR. If you have not yet done so, please don't wait any longer, and stop your training until you have been cleared to do so. Let us know you are OK. I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Ray for the nice Canada Day greeting, and I wish a sincere happy Independence Day to all members across the border. Last, I have some comments on freedom. While both sides of the border celebrate in freedom this weekend, many martial artists are suffering under the heavy yoke of a Master or association that does not allow them the freedom to expand their knowledge and/or opportunities. I know, I have heard all the comments about keeping your art pure; however, I do not believe there is a single art out there that has not already modified their curriculum years ago. Just look back in the history of the great Masters who founded Korean arts, and you will find that each one of them added to or changed the art they founded. Today, too many Masters and Grandmasters proclaim (the same action they themselves used to found their own art) such actions as disloyalty. Some even threaten their students with violence. If the truth would be looked square in the eye, it is most likely money that is the prime motivator behind their quest to keep you from doing the same thing. In today's competitive martial art industry, it is sometimes essential to modify the manner in which you operate. Where I once used the Jook Do to hand out discipline, I now use other forms of motivation. Some students miss my stern and sometimes brutal methods; however, there are not enough of them to keep my Dojang open. Change was simply a matter of survival! In our area, many schools have come and gone. Some were highly traditional schools with good Instructors that taught quality martial arts. Other schools were started by young students who mixed and matched everything they had ever read about or received limited training in. For whatever reason, regardless of traditional v/s fancy curriculum, they simply could not survive. Today's smart shopper will enroll in a school that offers what they need, and where the Instructors are capable of teaching it to them. No one has the right to limit your quest for more knowledge. Certainly, no one has the right to limit your business opportunities. I applaud Ron Bain for having the fortitude to stick to his belief of providing his students with the curriculum he is happy with. At the same time, I respect those who wish to remain "pure". It's a matter of freedom! Rudy, kwan jang www.nkmaa.ca ------------------------------ From: "Ryan Shroyer" Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 08:50:11 +0900 Subject: the_dojang: RE: Breaking Requirements Sir/Ma'am, You wrote: > Can I ask any instructor out there what breaking techniques (and for what > belt)they require for children, the ages and how many boards? Thank you. I know that everyone will have a different answer to this, but... an example of my breaking requirements can be found at http://ryanshroyer.tripod.com/faq/adv_matrix_gup.html Ryan Shroyer http://ryanshroyer.tripod.com ------------------------------ From: Tkdtiger@aol.com Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 22:13:05 EDT Subject: the_dojang: kay poe/esther kim In a message dated 7/2/00 2:03:26 PM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << That said, this is a little disconcerting. I guess if Ms. Poe is injured worse than originally thought and has to bow out before the Olympics, then Ms. Kim will go in her stead, but what happens if Ms. Poe performs poorly at the Olympics because of the effects of the injury? Who's to say Ms. Kim might've upset a healthy Ms. Poe that day? Do we earn our rewards merely by being considered good enough, not by actually performing? I just can't imagine Michael Jordan or Joe Montana forfeiting an NBA championship or a Super Bowl because a respected opponent was injured. >> I have communicated with Kay's father and you will be happy to know that Kay's knee, which was dislocated, is healing nicely. Ms.Poe had more than earned her spot ont he team - she was the onbly US competitor to qualify her position in the Croatia Qualifier - she has numerous international awards. In the end, everything worked out the way it was probably intended. And other than their obvious love of the game - the two gentlement you mentioned play for mega-bucks. These girls/women play for love of TKD. and all the perks involved in getting to go to the Olympics :) ------------------------------ From: "Michael Choi" Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 02:53:40 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Choi Hong Hi's son I'm looking for some history help. I remembering hearing that Choi Hong Hi's son was convicted by the Republic of Korea for attempting to assassinate a Korean official, quite possibly the president. Does anyone have some specific information? I'm looking for the name of the son, his position, the date of the assassination attempt, and any other relevant information. I'm not looking to slander Gen. Choi, his family, or ITF. I'm just trying to substantiate the allegation. If this was a total fabrication, then please clarify the issue for me. Sincerly, Michael Choi ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Vlado Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 03:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: the_dojang: nutrition and supplementation in training I'd like to draw your attention to a new topic. There are several questions that I haven't been able to clarify to myself so far and to which I thought I'd find the answers on this strikingly knowledgeable list(the members that is). Now, despite the heavy research I have carried out, I still know very little about the way I should eat and supplement for best results in my training. There are of course the sources dealing with heavy weight lifting and those about athletics... there is scarcely any proper information, however, on martial arts nutrition. And, perhaps, I should note that I'm involved in Taekwon-do(WTF) practice, because things would surely be different if I was practicing Aikido for instance. So, basically, what to eat, when to eat it in relation to training, what supplements to use, should you use any supplements after all, what are the right proportions of carbohydrates, proteins and fats for my training schedule??? And these quite naturally lead to questions like: what should be my training schedule - how many workouts, which skills, how much meditation, how much tape watching, which skill after which(such as plyometrics after endurance or the other way round and so on)... I'm trying and trying really hard to gather the right kind of knowledge so I can figure these out for myself.. but it's not easy - it's not even certain that I can end up with the right decisions all by myself... I am perfectly aware that I'm raising questions with much more than a single answer but that's exactly why I'm asking them on this very list - I have very high opinions of you, dear members of the list, of your knowledge and experience, and of your good will too. Finally, as this was a bit disorganized, here is what I'm asking of you. Would any of you, fellow martial artists, be so kind as to share with the rest the secrets of their training schedule - how many workouts, what is your nutrition like(any specifics would be very much appreciated), what is your supplementation like, if any. Any comments, ideas, schedules, facts, references, articles and experiences are warmly welcome. As this is quite a versatile topic, I hope that there will be a fruitful and interesting discussion. "If you can win over others, you are strong; if you can win over yourself, you are mighty." _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ------------------------------ From: Cplr50@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 07:36:10 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #441 In a message dated 07/02/2000 3:03:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > To make this martial arts related...I go in the basement and hit the heavy > bag McD, Tell me about it.. as a good piece of advice to anyone wanting to do well in a competition. go on the atkins diet for 3 weeks.. go to your competition.. and imagine that your opponent is a walking slice of bread.. victory is assured.. that diet had me sooo mean it was not even funny... murdering somebody for a slice of bread seemed to me at times a good thing.. Stone ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 6:26:26 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #442 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.