From: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: the_dojang-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #447 Reply-To: the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: The_Dojang-Digest Wed, 5 July 2000 Vol 07 : Num 447 In this issue: the_dojang: Ready for a good laugh? the_dojang: Over 30 years old the_dojang: It's out there! the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #444 the_dojang: Re:Over 30 years old Re: the_dojang: Re:Over 30 years old the_dojang: Over 30? the_dojang: Re: Breaking Requirements Re: the_dojang: knife question the_dojang: Re: Knife techniques Re: the_dojang: Sparring with intra-ocular lens implants the_dojang: Exercise and age the_dojang: . ========================================================================= The_Dojang, serving the Internet since June 1994. 955 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe the_dojang-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use the_dojang@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Korean Martial Arts (KMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Pil Seung! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TaoArt@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:47:12 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Ready for a good laugh? I wonder... is this the future of martial arts and the internet? The below link is a website that claims to allow open enrollment for a "traditional ninja clan". http://tesaihiryu.8k.com/index.html Meghan Gardner Guard Up, Inc. www.GuardUp.com "Carry love in your heart and a knife in your pocket at all times." me ------------------------------ From: "Mac" Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:59:02 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Over 30 years old Hi Tats, <> If/when I hurt something, I usually feel it for months & months. I guess the older you get, you quit counting in days or weeks - you begin to count in months.... <> I just turned 42, and I feel it every day (and I'm not really that old yet). << But I do feel that it is getting different from that I was young.>> When you get closer to 40, you'll definitely feel the difference (or at least I did). I don't push myself so hard now, or leave the ground on jump kicks :-) Now when I hurt something, seems to take forever to heal. You're not alone. ------------------------------ From: "Mac" Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:09:45 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: It's out there! So Andrew, under the new romanization standards, how would it change the spellings of Taekwondo and Tangsoodo? I guess Tang Soo Do would be Tang Su Do Mu Duk Kwan. Would TKD stay the same? What about HapKiDo? I have seen TKD spelled Taegwondo before, would that be the standard? If it was, we'd need to use TGD instead of TKD - seems weird.... ------------------------------ From: LenGWhite@cs.com Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:08:54 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: The_Dojang-Digest V7 #444 In a message dated 7/4/00 8:32:52 AM Central Daylight Time, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > Subject: the_dojang: Re: AAU Nationals > As a participant I have to agree that the Nationals were very well run - though the inevitable delays did get to be trying for a Geriatric (sorry Executive) and all the sitting does not do much for stretch... However one major complaint was the poor quality of the judging. By the third day you could tell that the judges were tired, and I do have sympathy for their unpaid role, but in my fight the number of shots not called, the penalties called but not deserved, and the number of face hits (points so no face contact allowed) ignored, was disturbing. Over all though it was fun - and a good learning experience. Understand the finals will be in Virginia next year. Hope there is less rain than we had in New Orleans, and hope that we can get more seniors and execs to come to spar. Len White lengwhite@cs.com ------------------------------ From: SallyBaughn@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:08:58 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re:Over 30 years old Tats wrote: << Have you ever felt you got old? How do you care of your body? >> From the great "wisdom" of 59, I believe I can say without too much fear of contradiction that almost everyone over 30 feels they've "gotten old" at some time -- and almost everyone older than those who feel they've gotten old are of the opinion that the youngsters haven't SEEN "old" yet. : ) If it's of any help, I "turned" (not a sprain or tear) my ankle about 2 months ago and what would have healed in a few days when I was 30 took 4+ weeks this time. The major problem I find with getting older is that if you DO get hurt, it takes longer to heal properly. The best advice I can offer to take care of yourself is to practice moderation in all things. Eat healthy, but indulge once in a while. Exercise, but remember to rest and relax after. Rest and relax, but don't be a couch potato. Most of all, if you can help it, don't do dangerous things you know to be stupid; i.e., don't smoke, drink to excess, etc. When you've finally made your choices, live with them and don't beat yourself up about them. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 7:41:56 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Re:Over 30 years old > Have you ever felt you got old? A great line I picked up last night while watching An Affair to Remember for the umpteenth time, Cary Grant's grandmother gets up slowly and painfully and then states, "ohh,,, my knees are as old as I am". gettin old ain't for wimps... Ray (almost two score and ten) Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Mac" Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:26:33 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Over 30? On topics of age and getting old, I offer these: "How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?" - Satchel Paige "It's no longer a question of staying healthy. It's a question of finding a sickness you like." - Jackie Mason Age doesn't always bring wisdom. Sometimes age comes alone. Age is an issue of mind over matter. If you don't mind, it doesn't matter. - Mark Twain Age only matters if you're cheese. Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. God grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway; the good fortune to run into the ones I do; and the eyesight to tell the difference! He who laughs, lasts. I've gotten to the age where I need my false teeth and hearing aid before I can ask where I left my glasses. I am sitting here thinking how nice it is that wrinkles don't hurt. If you laugh a lot, when you get older your wrinkles will be in the right places. Older age is when you burn the midnight oil around 9:00 PM. My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely. Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill. The big thing today is computer dating. If you don't know how to run a computer, it really dates you. The golden years: When actions creak louder than words. There's nothing wrong with the younger generation that twenty years or so won't cure. ------------------------------ From: Daniel Monjar Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:27:26 -0400 Subject: the_dojang: Re: Breaking Requirements On 07/03 12:20 -0400, the_dojang-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com wrote: > > From: Anders Torvill Bjorvand > Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:29:26 +0200 > Subject: the_dojang: Re: Breaking Requirements > > >[Ryan Shroyer]: I know that everyone will have a different answer to this, > >but... an example > >of my breaking requirements can be found at > >http://ryanshroyer.tripod.com/faq/adv_matrix_gup.html > > Wow - you have pretty tough requirements all over. > > [snip] > > However, I would kindly ask you to reconsider the following statement on > your webpage: > > "Time requirements obviously will vary from school to school, but 6 months > in between each promotion test is a minimum in most legitimate organizations." > > For Taekwondo this is simply not so. Neither the Kukki-won (WTF) nor the > ITF have time limits or recomendations for more than 3 years give or take a > year (usually take ...). > I, too, wondered about this statement. I have no reason to believe that my organization is not legitimate. There is a minimum time required after reaching 1st dan but for the guppies we test when we are ready. For the most part this is working out to being every two months. What do other instructors think? - -- Daniel Monjar (mailto:dmonjar@orgtek.com) "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine" ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 7:51:11 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: knife question > Is it possible to expand on this a bit. It has been obvious to me for > some while that knife and sword techniques often lack something in the > believability department. What is the correct way to stand when holding > a knife and what is the best way to strike. Of course, I only ask this > so that I can prepare good defences ;-) Without getting too fancy, I'd say the best way to strike with the knife is a strike that causes you not to cut yourself or to lose your knife, i.e. either with your follow through, or by sliding your hand down onto the blade when you made contact, or my dropping the knife during contact. The vast majority of all knife fights are a surprise for the 'good guy', thus you will probably not have time to get your own knife, asssuming that you carry one. However (stealing from Marc MacYoung), the best knife grip in a fight is however you end up holding the knife and the best stance is however you end up standing, if you can get to your knife. It all happens VERY quickly. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Knife1@aol.com Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:34:14 EDT Subject: the_dojang: Re: Knife techniques Andrew IMVHO, the best way to hold a knife while fighting, sparring, or whatever training you wish to do is to put it in your leading side. I hear lots of folks screaming about this already, but in order to not get slashed to ribbons, you keep the knife in front of you as a barrier as well as your weapon. I have seen many people train to keep the knife in the rear position to seemingly protect it. And they block with the front hand. Here are my reasons for the front position: Going against a knife empty handed...I feel the fallacy of that is that you do not block a knife, you would do well for yourself to redirect it away from you and seize the weapon bearing limb; and break the wrist or elbow. Strip the blade if it hasn't already fallen and then finish the opponent. Blade to Blade is the crux of the matter. This is the primary reason I say keep the blade in front. In the hands of any one who knows how to wield a blade, your front arm will be cut to shreds and you will suffer. By keeping the blade directed towards the opponent, you may effectively block by using your blade and other hand to secure a grip on the weapon hand and hack into the forearm or biceps of the opponent and safely counter with a secure grip on his blade. Another option is to simply pass the blade redirecting it into a slash or cut with your blade, then securing a grip with your free hand and disarming and finishing your opponent. In our schools, we train with weapons constantly and spar with them as much as we spar empty handed. We train very realistically with magic markers and chalk. You learn very quickly that rear hand positioning with the blade gets you killed or maimed 8 out of 10 times. As far as footwork goes, utilize your fighting stance as your primary position. Stay away from anything that keeps you from being highly mobile and agile. Think of catlike movements and motions while training with knives. Sorry for such a long post, I hope that I have helped some. Jim Mahan ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 7:58:14 PDT Subject: Re: the_dojang: Sparring with intra-ocular lens implants >Further to a query I made to the list a couple of weeks ago, is there anybody >on the list who has intra-ocular lens implants (implanted replacement lenses >for cataracts) and who spars, or knows of other people who do? Have you or >they had any problems with them, regarding being hit? What is the guidance offered by your Dr.? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Mac" Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 09:38:17 -0500 Subject: the_dojang: Exercise and age Here are some Monday morning (OK it's Wednesday - but first day back to work) thoughts on exercise and getting older. EXERCISE It is well documented that for every mile that you jog, you add one minute to your life. This enables you at 85 years old to spend an additional 5 months in a nursing home at $5000 per month. 1. My grandmother started walking five miles a day when she was 60. She's 97 now and we don't know where the hell she is, 2. The only reason I would take up jogging is so that I could hear heavy breathing again. 3. I joined a health club last year, spent about 400 bucks. Haven't lost a pound. Apparently you have to show up. 4. I have to exercise early in the morning before my brain figures out what I'm doing. 5. I don't exercise at all. If God meant us to touch our toes, he would have put them further up on our body. 6. I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. 7. I have flabby thighs, but fortunately my stomach covers them. 8. The advantage of exercising every day is that you die healthier. 9. If you are going to try cross-country skiing, start with a small country. And last but not least: 10. I don't jog, it makes the ice jump right out of my glass. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 8:01:44 PDT Subject: the_dojang: . ------------------------------ End of The_Dojang-Digest V7 #447 ******************************** It's a great day for Taekwondo! Support the USTU by joining today. US Taekwondo Union, 1 Olympic Plaza, Ste 405, Colorado Spgs, CO 80909 719-578-4632 FAX 719-578-4642 ustutkd1@aol.com http://www.ustu.com To unsubscribe from the_dojang-digest send the command: unsubscribe the_dojang-digest -or- unsubscribe the_dojang-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.