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The_Dojang-Digest            Thur, 6 July 2000         Vol 07 : Num 452

In this issue:

       the_dojang: Re: The New Romanization
       the_dojang: Re: Knife Carry
       the_dojang: Re: Can it be too late to start Taekwondo?
       the_dojang: Board breaking with knife hand
       the_dojang: Re: While on the subject of Hapkido GM's, re: in Korea ?
       the_dojang: Re: Speaking of Knives and related topics
       the_dojang: Re: Billy Jack line
       the_dojang: Re: Old Farts in Martial Arts (Abdoul)
       the_dojang: carrying knives
       Re: the_dojang: Re: Knife Carry
       the_dojang: .
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From: SallyBaughn@aol.com
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:30:36 EDT
Subject: the_dojang: Re: The New Romanization

Andrew wrote:

<< None of which will be understandable to a Korean. >>

and very little of which will be understandable to a non-Korean. 
  : )

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From: MRowe@ids.sitel.net
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:40:52 -0500
Subject: the_dojang: Re: Knife Carry

> The blade is just under 3 1/4 inches. Making it legal in ALL 50 states
and

Ray comments:
<<Except in California (others?) in public buildings and on school
grounds.>>

CA Law is a bit rusty for me - However, based on what I was last told (by
an lawyer mind you) I can carry a 3 1/4" folder  as long as it is not
concealed.

Of course that can change. CA is the dumbest state in terms of weapons laws
that I have ever seen.

Public Buildings? Yes I can - I have carried it into court houses and
various government buildings, hell my Delica has been in the White House. -
Even after going through the metal detector. And yes I can carry it on
school grounds as well. (maybe in CA another dumb law in the making)

> allowable for carry by FAA regulations onto airplanes (although some gate
> security people have trouble remebering that)

<<At 3+ in. if it locks open you'll be unlikely to get it on the plane.
Down around 1 in. (blade length) and they tend to let it pass through.  In
other countries even a 1 in. locking blade is illegal as carry on and must
be checked through.>>

Sorry Ray but here the law is on my side and FAA regs as well. I have
carried my Spyderco Delica on the airlines many times. My Rekrat Escalator
(now being redesigned by Bram Frank with Spyderco as the "Gunting" ) I have
carried it on may planes. I have never once had a problem.  Recently the
FAA regs have been reworded to include "and menacing" this is their
catchall if they wish to use it.

As for foriegn Countries (UK is the only one I have any info. on) it must
get checked you are right.

Michael Rowe

Ray Terry
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From: foxdragon@cuttingedge.net
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 08:21:46 -0700
Subject: the_dojang: Re: Can it be too late to start Taekwondo?

> From: "Abdoulkarim.Samake" <abdoulkarim.samake@jsipdy.org.ml>
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:44:04 -0000
> Subject: the_dojang: Can it be too late to start Taekwondo?
> 
> Hi
> I am 34 years old.  I just started doing Taekwondo.  I already noticed the
> physical challenge that represents.  I have strength, endurance, but
> terribly lack of flexibility.  Can one improve his flexibility at my age?
> Help me with some advice. Thanks
> Abdoul
> 
The answer is yes. I am much more flexable than when I
started. Donna
- -- 
Me and my shadow

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From: John McFee <jmcfee@dres.dnd.ca>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:29:42 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: the_dojang: Board breaking with knife hand

I'm working on board breaking with a knife hand strike for my black belt test. 
I've done two boards in the past without problem, but I'm now having trouble 
breaking three. I've been getting conflicting advice on where the target is on 
the board. I always thought that it was the center line in the up-down direction 
and at the edge of the board from left to right (i.e., for a right hand strike, 
the knife hand would hit so that the wrist was just "outside" or to the right of 
the board).

Now other people are telling me that I should be hitting an inch or so above the 
center line. This doesn't make sense to me and I am confused. Needless to say, 
it isn't helping my confidence. Does anyone have any advice?


Dr. John E. McFee  
Defence Research Establishment Suffield
Box 4000, Medicine Hat, AB Canada T1A 8K6
(403) 544-4739 (voice)    544-4704 (fax)
e-mail: John.McFee@dres.dnd.ca  


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From: Ken McDonough <maganda44@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:38:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: the_dojang: Re: While on the subject of Hapkido GM's, re: in Korea ?

Master Booth stated:

<From: "G. Booth" <hapkido@netro.com.au>
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:57:21 +1000
Subject: the_dojang: LA Hapkido

Alain, in the LA area there are 3 main Hapkido GM's that you should try and

visit. Grandmaster Bong Soo Han, Grandmaster Tae Man Kwon, and Grandmaster 
Chong S Kim, Les Connards instructor. There are links to each of their 
schools from our links page if you need contact details.>

Response:  While on the subject of Hapkido instructors I need (request) the
list members to respond to this query. Two years to go and I can retire
from
the Air Force. If I teach, I can have the summers off. Would love to
revisit
Korea during the summers and relive my youthful past (partially). I want to
eat from the tent carts and visit the myriad of shops.  

Also, would be nice to receive some training while there. Hence, any
recommendations from members on Hapkido instructors or schools in either
Seoul or Pusan (note: I am aware of GM In Sun Seo in Pusan). I have to 
admit, I would prefer an instructor that speaks a little English since my
Korean is only marginal (I remember certain key phrases like "Ye Puda"). I
have also spent time in Taegu and I believe there are a few outstanding
Dojangs there. But Taegu is the hotterst place in Korea during the summer.
Finally, one reader mentioned a Dojang near Camp Casey.
Spent time there also ("hey, GI you want...").

At your leisure hit me back with a few references. 

Peace all,

Ken McD...







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From: Ken McDonough <maganda44@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:47:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: the_dojang: Re: Speaking of Knives and related topics

Ray commented:

<assuming you're using the lock back style Spyderco's, make sure you can't
get the lock to fail on you.  This is a typical fault with most all lock
backs.  e.g. take your Endura or Delica or ?? and white-knuckle it (grip
it as HARD as you can) in various grip positions.  Can you get the lock
to release?  Most never try this little test and this very possibly is what
you'll do with your knife should your life ever be on the line, i.e. grab
it who knows how -and- with a death grip.  My hand is shaped such that I
can fail many lock back models.  That is why I like the rolling lock or
liner lock models.  But be advised that a liner lock, esp production 
models,can also fail on you.  You have to pick out one in which the liner
engages very positively.  Roller locks seem to not fail.>

Response:  While on this topic, I can recommend an outstanding recent 
video on Knife fighting called "Beware of the Knife Fighter". It is by
Professor David James, Vee-Arnis Jitsu, New York, New York. He took over
the Vee-Arnis system upon the recent passing of Professor F. Visacion
(sic).
Anyway, the video is geared toward the law enforcement officer and has
simple, effective drills and do's and don'ts. A long film and I think
better
than Mark MacYoung's video (which is also good). If interested I can 
provide a toll free number.

Cheers,

McD...



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From: Ken McDonough <maganda44@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:55:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: the_dojang: Re: Billy Jack line

Alain partially noted:

<I think I will try and Visit GM Bong Soo Han.  Besides being a pioneer of 
HKD here in America and the recommendations from people on this list, I
have 
always been a Billy Jack fan.

Thanks again,
Alain>

Response:  I loved those films. In particular, I loved the line in the
park, re: "I am gonna take my right foot and hit you on the left side of
your face and there is not a damn thing you can do about it !" (something
like that). A well known poster on this list has also recommended GM Bong
Soo Han.

Ken McD...

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From: Ken McDonough <maganda44@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:05:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: the_dojang: Re: Old Farts in Martial Arts (Abdoul)

A reader asked:

<From: "Abdoulkarim.Samake" <abdoulkarim.samake@jsipdy.org.ml>
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:44:04 -0000
Subject: the_dojang: Can it be too late to start Taekwondo?

Hi
I am 34 years old.  I just started doing Taekwondo.  I already noticed the
physical challenge that represents.  I have strength, endurance, but
terribly lack of flexibility.  Can one improve his flexibility at my age?
Help me with some advice. Thanks
Abdoul>

Response:  Good question. I am over 40 and slightly below 50. I am not at
the level of some of these Masters on this list since I have moved too 
often and was unable to stick to one system. But, the flexibility will
come with time. I suggest a few whirlpools prior to practice. Find a 
good stretching regimen and do it a few times a week. Take it slow.
Also, don't worry about what others think of you. Don't try to impress
or feel inferior. Some people are good at certain things and others at
other areas. I try to work on my strengths and weaknesses but do not
seek approval or positive strokes from others. Just go with your own
comfort level. You can soon be "The Master of Disaster".

McD...



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From: "kadin goldberg" <kadin1@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:13:53 MDT
Subject: the_dojang: carrying knives

Ken McD, about carrying knives in your pocket, the law is comes from the 
state so it is different in every state.  In Montana, where i live, the law 
is that you can carry any knife thats blade us under 6 inches.  I dont 
really know the law in other stats...

signed,
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From: Ray Terry <raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 9:46:51 PDT
Subject: Re: the_dojang: Re: Knife Carry

> Ray comments:
> <<Except in California (others?) in public buildings and on school
> grounds.>>
> 
> CA Law is a bit rusty for me - However, based on what I was last told (by
> an lawyer mind you) I can carry a 3 1/4" folder  as long as it is not
> concealed.
> 
> Of course that can change. CA is the dumbest state in terms of weapons laws
> that I have ever seen.
> 
> Public Buildings? Yes I can - I have carried it into court houses and
> various government buildings, hell my Delica has been in the White House. -
> Even after going through the metal detector. And yes I can carry it on
> school grounds as well. (maybe in CA another dumb law in the making)

school grounds and public buildings in Californa.  2.5" is the max.

> > allowable for carry by FAA regulations onto airplanes (although some gate
> > security people have trouble remebering that)
> 
> <<At 3+ in. if it locks open you'll be unlikely to get it on the plane.
> Down around 1 in. (blade length) and they tend to let it pass through.  In
> other countries even a 1 in. locking blade is illegal as carry on and must
> be checked through.>>
> 
> Sorry Ray but here the law is on my side and FAA regs as well. I have

Up to about 6 or 9 months ago that was correct.  After that things changed.
Denver, Newark, San Francisco, San Jose, Chicago, Atlanta, I've been 
stopped at all of them recently.  I can get my locking 1.5" Al Mar
(a 'cigar cutter') on board, but little else.  When you're trying to get
on a plane that is not the place to attempt to convince the LEOs on station
that they don't know the law, assuming they -are- wrong.  They just point
to the sign that clearly says 'no knives' and state that a locking blade
knife is now the same as a fixed blade.  Actually it makes sense.  But
before that I traveled with an Endura, a Pat Crawford custom, a Cold Steel
Voyager, my current carry a Kershaw Whirlwind, no problems.  Anything with
a blade under 4" was ok, locking or not.  But that was then...

One time flying to Korea I had a tiny Spyderco LadyBug on my keyring.  No 
problem until I got to Japan to change flights.  Given it had a locking blade
they would not even let me carry that on board.  I only had carry on luggage
(I seldom check thru) and they started to put this little knife in a 3 ft. x
3 st. box to check through to Seoul.  I never bothered to pick it up on the
other side. 

Ray Terry
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From: Ray Terry <raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 9:54:41 PDT
Subject: the_dojang: .


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